Talk:American Ninja Warrior season 13

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Discussion of IP edits[edit]

@108.54.158.96: Hello IP! While I don't disagree with your addition of Stage 4 (I also watch American Ninja Warrior), I cannot allow it to remain on the article without a reliable source as that is considered WP:OR. Also if you can find that Enzo's middle name is DeFerrari in a reliable source then it can stay. I am simply removing it because it seems a lot like a made up middle name because of the similarity to the car, Ferrari Enzo also known as the Enzo Ferrari. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 13:43, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's not made up, it was LITERALLY on the TV screen all throughout his appearances in the competition. Seems to me you didn't even bother watching the show.108.54.158.96 (talk) 13:47, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@108.54.158.96: Never said it was made up. I do admit that I didn't watch the ENTIRE show. However as I said, if there is information that could be challenged there must be a reliable source for it. Did you actually take a look at WP:OR? Because it provides some useful info, along with WP:RS. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 13:54, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, even if it is his middle name, most of the time people's middle name is not added to the article ~~although I could be wrong~~. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 13:55, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not wrong, but I give up.108.54.158.96 (talk) 14:00, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Questions: I don't really understand what are reliable sources for different sections. The National Finals section does say that Stage 4 was the Rope Climb, where Kaden Lebsack failed to make the time, and the addition of the obstacle also had the Youtube video showing the climb. Anyone who watched the finals saw that and knows that. Where is the Original Research about this?

Also: Stage 1 shows 27 competitors finishing it. How come Stage 2 has 29 competitors competing there? I don't understand who the 2 additional competitors are and where do they come from? According to my recollection, from watching all shows of the season, the name they gave on TV was Enzo DeFerrari Wilson. What does "Digest." on the Notes column of the finals mean? I would appreciate some clarifications. Thank you, warshy ^(¥¥) 15:01, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly sure that even though it was shown on TV we can't really use that as the source. However I could be wrong and be interpreting WP:OR and WP:RS wrong. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 15:05, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the source for the names currently given? And for the obstacles currently on the chart? Excuse my ignorance. I would appreciate some clarifications for all the questions above. Thank you. warshy ^(¥¥)

Well the issue is there is none currently. That's why I put the tag on the article stating that more sources are needed. I haven't removed those as they existed before I added the maintenance tag, however any new info added afterwards I'm removing because it's unsourced. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 15:18, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thank you for the clarification. So, as I understand it, the article as it currently is was built by show watchers from the video recordings they have? Except for the ratings, there are no reliable written sources for any of the other information? Thank you, warshy ^(¥¥) 15:32, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Never said sources weren't out there. I also don't know whether or not the article was built by those who watch the show and have it recorded. I simply came across this article and tagged it because it was sorely lacking in sources. Again, if I'm wrong about any of this feel free to correct me. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 15:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me, from looking at the sources more closely, that videos of all 12 episodes and all stages are available online and are already in the sources. Any additional facts or corrections can be made by someone looking at the videos available online. The whole matter for me is just curiosity, and not as important to go and really research it. Thank you, warshy ^(¥¥) 15:47, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem! This was something that I was not aware of. Thank you for making me aware of this. ― Blaze The Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#0001} 15:50, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]