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Epictetus

"Arrian left an Encheiridion (Handbook) of Epictetus' philosophy." He did a lot more than that; he wrote the whole Discourses. Most philosophers don't even read the Encheiridion anymore because the Discourses are so much fuller. I also disagree with "In a comparison of the contents of the Enchiridion with the Discourses, it is apparent that the former contains material not present within the latter, suggesting an original lost source for the Enchiridion." That's not the usual explanation; rather, the portions of Encheiridion that don't have an obvious parallel in the extant Discourses are usually thought to refer to the lost portions of the latter.--98.111.164.239 (talk) 09:53, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tilliborus is not a real work by Arrian

Under "Biographical series" it says:

"There were also a number of monographs or biographies, including of Dion of Syracuse, Timoleon of Corinth, and Tilliborus, a brigand or robber of Asia minor, which are now lost.[86][87][88][89][90] "

But the work about Tilliborus is most likely just a joke made by Lukian [1] in his "Alexander the False Prophet"; in the Anabasis, Arrian goes on and on about writing great literature about a great historical figure, that the writer of the story has to be worthy of his subject etc. He would not have written a book about some robber. This is exactly what Lukian makes fun of with his remark, that he could write about such a deviant person as Alexander of Abonuteichos, since someone like Arrian wrote about the robber Tilliboros.

Reference:Sabine Müller: Icons, Images, Interpretations: Arrian,Lukian, their Relationship, and Alexander at the Kydnos, in: Karanos 1, 2018, pp. 67-86, p. 71-72.

Greetings 84.171.73.236 (talk) 21:46, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]