Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands

Anything known about official recovery numbers?

Does anyone know whether authorities such as RIVM (will start to) publish how many people have recovered? I've seen a few scattered news reports, but no official data as of yet. Skysmurf  (Talk) 18:19, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Since the oldest case barely has been lnown for a week, it is possible that nobody has recovered yet.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Almost two weeks now :-) But yeah, although Dutch news tends to be quite reliable, the reports I've seen so far are most likely either retractions mistaken for recoveries or just plain hoaxes. Skysmurf  (Talk) 19:45, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

There's isn't anything about in the news. And I doubt an institute like RIVM or the CIb will publish such list.Melvinvk (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, the NOS just reported that the RIVM are working on a recovery counter. But it will take time and there are of course other priorities at the moment. It does mean there will be no reliable recovery statistics for the time being.  Skysmurf  (Talk) 21:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

I saw it too. Melvinvk (talk) 23:22, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

It's 4th of May now, but still no official figures are published for showing number of recoveries. HeroNumberZero (talk) 15:33, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Skysmurf: There is only an estimation about the number of active cases in the dashboard. --Horizon Sunset (talk) 20:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Use of past tenses

When mentioning statistics from a few days ago, should I use past continuous tense or past perfect continuous tense? I originally used the past perfect continuous tense, for instance by writing "As of January 16, 2021, 200 cases of that variant had been reported.". It was later edited by 195.240.143.243 as "As of January 16 2021, 200 cases of that variant have been reported.". I prefer using past tense, the reporting of cases from a few days ago is already technically over, and as time passes, the use of the past continuous tense will become incorrect. BurgundyApple (talk) 12:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi, that was me. I interpreted "as of" as trying to talk about a continuing process. So I read "by January 16 2021, 200 cases had been reported in total, assuming more will follow". The number of cases will grow over time, so it's not a definitive number overall. But I see your point that in a month this might read as outdated/wrong tense. I guess this is a problem with a page like this being updated continuously, the relevance of the information changes over time. I must say that using past perfect continuous right now reads to me like the process of growth has already stopped. Not sure how to mend this, if you want to change it back, be my guest. Gimmesomefacts (talk) 12:37, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Inappropriate image montage

The image montage does not represent a relevant view of the pandemic in the Netherlands:

• The armed forces did not play that much of a significant part in the handling of the pandemic, although specifically for the testing locations, this is appropriate
• Empty Dam Square is ok, but lack of crowds might be better illustrated by another location, as it's not obvious to outsiders how busy the square is normally
• Empty shelves have only been a thing for a few days out of 400 days of pandemic
• Police handing out facemasks, obviously misleading since masks were more or less discouraged most of the pandemic and rarely handed out for free. Besides, the image shows bad hygienic practice: both persons hold the masks with bare hands on both sides.

Of course, all/most of the images would still very well fit along appropriate sections within the article. I would suggest to replace the infobox montage with images of the 1.5m society, testing locations, etc. Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Protests | September 2021

It is pertinent to include the information on recent Unmute Us! protest by the Events sector [1].

The events sector will take to the streets in various cities again on Saturday under the name Unmute Us. This is because the Cabinet has not yet made any concrete commitments in response to the earlier protest on August 21, which generated headlines worldwide. The sector is calling on the Cabinet to adjust its pandemic response policy to allow events, such as festivals, to continue immediately. The demonstrations begin from 2 p.m. in the cities of Amsterdam, The Hague, Eindhoven, Enschede, Groningen, Leiden, Maastricht, Tilburg, Nijmegen and Utrecht. Initially, there were also protests planned in Rotterdam, but the demonstrators there were asked to join the action in The Hague.

Wikihc (talk) 01:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

This article is completely useless

Unfortunately, as time flies, this article turned into a (bad) statistical database which has information on what number of positive tests was registered on every day. What actually happened, in particular, what decisions were taken, by whom, why, and how they were discussed and motivated, is not in the article. It is absolutely impossible to understand what was happening. In part this is due to WP:RECENTISM, and this article should not have existed, but given it exists, there is literature which details the big picture, it is just easier to update the numbers every day (a great part of this work was made by a sock of a globally banned user) that to write a source-based comprehensive account of the events.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:09, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Be bold!--~TPW 15:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: CMN2160A

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