Talk:Cate Blanchett/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: LM150 (talk · contribs) 20:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this. Article looks quite strong.. great work! Have to say, I did enjoy Blanchett's performance in Notes on a Scandal. I haven't seen it in years, so I'll need a revisit! Comments will be added below. LM150 20:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lede section - could we try reducing the number of film credits here? The lede doesn't need to list this many. For example, this sentence: "Her other Oscar-nominated roles are in the dramas xyz", could just list two of them?
"The trilogy was a major critical and financial success, earning $2.981 billion at the box office worldwide and is widely regarded as one of the greatest and most influential film series ever made." - the box office part needs a source. And "greatest and most influential" doesn't sound neutral. I know the trilogy is in List of films considered the best, but this is based on polls. I would either remove it, or rephrase as "In an audience poll by xyz, viewers rated it as the most popular.." followed by a source.
"Lord of the Rings film trilogy (which won the Academy Award for Best Picture)" - source needed about Best Picture
"for which she received an Independent Spirit Award for Best Supporting Female nomination" - source needed
"Babel, directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu, which received seven Academy Award nominations" - source needed
"Also in 2008, Blanchett and her husband became co-CEOs" - should we mention the husband's name here?
"A Streetcar Named Desire production traveled from Sydney..." - I thought this paragraph was quite quote heavy. Is there a way we can reduce the large quotes and/or paraphrase some?
"In 2010, Blanchett starred as Lady Marion opposite Russell Crowe's titular hero in Ridley Scott's epic Robin Hood. The film received mixed reviews" - mixed reviews part needs source
Activism - humanitarian section - the second quote box is overlapping into the next section on my large screen. Could we make one these quotes an inline quote so that it sits in between the paragraphs?
"She has also been deemed a chameleon who has a mastery over a wide array of accents.." - how about "She has also been deemed a mastery of accents..."? The 'chameleon' bit sounds odd.

Hi LM150, thanks for reviewing! I'm the nominator for this article and have worked quite extensively on it recently. It was sadly lacking for an actor as notable as Ms. Blanchett, but I'm trying my best to get it up to GA article standards. I've gone through each one of your points so far and done a fairly extensive edit to deal with all of them. Sources have been added where requested. I've re-worded some of the lede section to remove the unnecessary list of films, just leaving it as a handful of her most well known works. I've also cut down the quote heavy paragraph regarding the Streetcar Named Desire production as much as seems appropriate, but let me know if you think it's still too bulky. The second quote box under the Activism - Humanitarian section has been removed and turned into an inline quote, and finally I've changed to wording under the Legacy section and removed the chameleon reference. Hopefully it reads better now. --Finarfiniel (talk) 05:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, here's some additional feedback: LM150 13:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"On 5 December 2008, Blanchett was inducted into the Hollywood Walk of Fame.." - this is already mentioned in the Accolades section, so perhaps remove it from here

Y Done. Removed Walk of Fame mention from the 2008-2011 section.

"Blanchett portrayed ~~in voice and motion capture~~ a female version of the python Kaa in Andy Serkis' adaptation of The Jungle Book titled Mowgli: Legend of the Jungle, in which he mixes motion capture, CG animation, and live-action, and wherein the character's role is much closer..." - this sentence could be broken up into two. Add wikilinks to motion capture and CG animation, and remove one instance of motion capture (as shown in strikethrough)

Y Done. I've split this into two separate sentences as suggested and re-worked the wording slightly, hopefully it's less awkward now. Also added wikilinks to motion capture and CG animation.

Accolades section - this first sentence needs a source (might be sufficient to link to her awards and nominations article)

Y Done. I've added a link to her awards and nominations page and also sourced her IMDb awards page for good measure, I don't know of anywhere else that has a complete list of her awards and nominations, so hopefully that's sufficient.

Reference 3, 243 and 244. Are there alternative sources than YouTube videos? And a more reliable source than PageSix.com?

Y Done. Replaced the Page Six source with one from the much more reliable Hollywood Reporter and replaced the YouTube sources too. The DOB one was a little difficult, it's definitely correct but it's difficult to find a reliable written source for it. I ended up going with the Encyclopedia Britannica, is that okay?

"the Independent Spirit and Golden Globe Best Supporting Actress Award for her portrayal of Jude Quinn.[58] - I didn't see these awards in the source at the end.

Y Done.

Thanks again LM150, let me know what you think. Finarfiniel (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Finarfiniel, Thanks, almost there! Sorry you will have to replace the IMDB source, as it's considered unreliable on Wikipedia (see this useful table of sources). Encyclopaedia Britannica is acceptable, although there is no consensus on it's reliability. LM150 20:06, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

LM150, I've removed the IMDb source (thanks for linking me to that table by the way, that's really helpful) but with nothing to replace it with, is a link to her awards and nominations page alone sufficient? Every win and nomination on that page has been individually sourced. If not, let me know and I'll remove that sentence entirely and see if there's a better way to open the Accolades section. I've left the Encyclopedia Britannica source as is for now, but will continue looking for a better one to replace it with, if one exists. Finarfiniel (talk) 20:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In that case for the Accolades section, I would list only the most prominent awards. I would write: "Among her numerous accolades for her acting work, Blanchett has won two Academy Awards, three BAFTA Awards, three Golden Globe Awards, and ten Australian Academy Awards." These can sourced from reusing your sources, or finding a source which can list them all for each org. For instance, this one lists all 3 Golden Globes: https://www.goldenglobes.com/person/cate-blanchett . I think all the critics awards can be removed as these are in the separate article. What do you think? LM150 22:15, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, thanks! That's what I've done, kept the major awards and sourced them and removed the critics awards which, as you say, are detailed fully on her separate awards page anyway. Unfortunately I couldn't locate a reliable source that listed all her 10 AACTA wins in one list and didn't want to clutter up the page with 10 separate citations so I've removed the reference to her AACTA wins too. Finarfiniel (talk) 23:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, the article meets GA standard now. Congrats! LM150 12:32, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's brilliant, thanks for your hard work, LM150! It's been a pleasure working with you. Finarfiniel (talk) 17:32, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]