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A fact from Chappell Roan appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 January 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Chappell Roan was signed to Atlantic Records at 17 years old?

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 00:55, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Chappell Roan was in 11th grade when she was signed to Atlantic Records? Source: Interview magazine
- ALT1: ... that Chappell Roan was 17 years old when she was signed to Atlantic Records? Source: Vulture
- ALT2: ... that despite having been released in summer 2020, Chappell Roan's song "Pink Pony Club" was described as "the Song of Summer 2021" by Vulture? Source: Vulture
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/When Harry Met Santa
- Comment: Trying to hunt down an image, though it's probably unlikely. ALTs are welcome – I would love to work in "synthy infectious bangarang" somehow

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 20:02, 26 December 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Review is coming: I never heard of her but I am going to review it because I listened to that Pink Pony club song just now. Also ping me when you get a QPQ done. Bruxton (talk) 01:08, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Waiting on a QPQ. Article has 3600+ characters and it was just over 572 characters until the 26th of December - so it is 5x expanded. Earwigs calls out some direct quotes, but they are not copyright violations, they are properly referenced.The references support the claims. In the claim about being discovered in "11th grade" the actual reference says she was a "junior" in HS when discovered - and it is the same thing, but I think it may make a better hook to say junior? But I am not married to the idea. There are 7 separate claims which are referenced to the "Vulture" reference, so perhaps we should check for references that present more diversity of references. The neutrality is a question. It is flowery and gushing, - like this kid is a rising star and she is going places! I saw a sentences about her "imminent popularity" (I removed it). I saw an ambiguous statement about her song appearing in summer 2020, the reference actually said April 2020, so I changed it to read April 2020. There is no picture but we do not need one. I think it is a more interesting hook to mention she was discovered from a youtube video. I will present an ATL here but I can live with ATL0 also.

ATL1 ...that singer Chappell Roan was a junior in high school when she was discovered on YouTube? Bruxton (talk) 02:26, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- QPQ added, Bruxton! Thanks for the review. It's a good song, isn't it? ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 05:54, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for DYK. Yes the song is wistful and somber, and then somewhat hopeful. Her voice is very pleasing. Bruxton (talk) 14:53, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Modified ALT1 to T:DYK/P4

I believe there needs to be additional research regarding their birthday/ personal information regarding this individual without tiktok as a referenced source of information disinformation can cause problems to the artist and possibly others without steargarded information in place that is accurate //you might be placing this person in some hot water for something that is not accurate. 72.68.117.233 (talk) 17:13, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chapppell's Drag Queen Style[edit]

Hello, I am new to Wikipedia editing however after reading through this page I think it's important to note Chappell's style of performing and where that stems from which is Drag Race. Rachelscriver (talk) 21:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Rachelscriver, to the extent that you can find sources that have discussed Chappell's performing style and have directly linked it to drag, we can definitely include that. Alyo (chat·edits) 00:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Queer vs. lesbian[edit]

Hey all, have been seeing some commentary on Reddit and other sites about edits citing Chappell self-identifying as a lesbian frequently being reversed. Is this due to inadequate citations or something else? I think if she's using a more accurate label it makes more sense to use that. TariffedSparrow (talk) 01:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also saw that post. I think the best source for "lesbian" would be this TIME interview, at around the 2:40 mark. https://time.com/6836626/chappell-roan-interview-guts-tour-olivia-rodrigo/ Mateussf (talk) 03:47, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That does seem to be the best source. I added it to her Personal life section, with careful wording. Wikipedia tends to be very cautious when it comes to personal identity--short of the person saying "I am X" explicitly, they often seem to avoid simply saying "This person is X." Unfortunatley, so far I wasn't able to find a source where she clearly, directly, calls herself a lesbian. BlueRoseGardener (talk) 05:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware that this likely isn't the best source, but right now it is all that's available so I would like to submit it for consideration until we have something better. This is a video from her recent concert in which she explicitly states "I'm a lesbian now". https://x.com/lesbianvillanel/status/1799299769292271886

Again, I am aware we will probably need to wait until there is a better source than a video on Twitter, but those were the words from her mouth directly calling herself a lesbian. Redandsymmetry (talk) 16:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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She said in an interview that she has been criticized for doing drag as a woman: «I never understood the pushback on why girls can’t do drag. I do drag – it makes me feel good and free, it’s the same feeling that the gay boys feel. To me, it feels like they just don’t like women doing things. It’s just another man trying to tell a woman what to do. I’m a drag queen, whether you like girls doing it or not.»

Source: ^[1] VanjaOkay20 (talk) 15:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Vanja Kadic of Medienart Annabelle AG: Please refrain from advertising your employer. You were reported for vandalism at de-wiki --Pentachlorphenol (talk) 08:49, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. Clear disagreement on the edit. Closing for discussion. Geardona (talk to me?) 01:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chapell Roan “Identifies as Lesbian”[edit]

While Chapell Roan certainly dates women, this article claims that she identifies as lesbian…the cited sources do not seem to prove this. The first source is a random twitter user (doesn’t seem completely reliable) and the second is a billboard article which talks about lesbianism, but includes no quotes from Chapell Roan herself stating that she is lesbian. There does not appear to be credible evidence that she is lesbian. I think there is strong evidence to say she “identifies as queer,” and that might be the proper phrase to use. 2601:1C2:1900:8170:6D34:EEBA:8B6B:6375 (talk) 02:51, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although it's not the best source, MOS:IDENTITY says to "use the term that the person or group uses", and that's what the twitter/x video shows. She has repeatedly made statements identifying as a lesbian, and in this case I think consensus has fallen on not trying to wiki-lawyer her identity. Alyo (chat·edits) 14:31, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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