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Archive 1

"Stupid Love"

Sources mention "Stupid Love" re: LG6. See Draft:Stupid Love (Lady Gaga song). Updates welcome! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:44, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Update: This draft has been moved into the main space, and I've added mention of the single to this draft article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:40, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Sources

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

September–October 2019 sourcing

---Another Believer (Talk) 19:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@Musicpoplover12: Putting this draft on your radar since you've been updating the Enigma page lately. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:32, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Credits

@Rafaelfgc: Should credits be added to this draft article for the album as well, based on "Stupid Love". I'm not comfortable using Instagram as a reliable source, but the credits should be published very soon in other sources as well. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Move into main space?

Resolved

@Gagaluv1: Thoughts on moving this into the main space? Sources like this show "LG-6" written out in the billboard artwork. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: Pinging you as well. Do we need to wait until an album release date is confirmed? ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
I definitely would wait for that. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 17:56, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

@SomethingToTellYou: There's an existing draft article. You're welcome to add content to this draft. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

I see Chromatica in the billboard as well, but have any sources confirmed this is the actual title? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:14, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Merge

@SomethingToTellYou: Thanks for working to integrate your draft content into this existing entry. Looking forward to collaborating! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: Is there anyway to integrate the history of my draft into the history of this draft? I wrote a fair amount of substantive content I’ll move over into this draft. SomethingToTellYou (talk) 18:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
SomethingToTellYou, Possibly? I'd review Wikipedia:Merging. I will say, though, I don't think much of the Background and development section in your draft is necessary or specific to this album. If I were you, I'd focus on the content specific to this album, but the choice is yours. Thanks again for your willingness to collaborate and focus efforts on one page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:57, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Ditto content re: "The Cure" -- do any sources actually say the song will be featured on this album? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:58, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: I've begun integrating some of the material from my draft into your draft. I'm just going to refer to the album as Chromatica, as it seems that's the title. If it's not , I can just do a quick search and replace. I'm removing "The Cure" information as well. @SNUGGUMS:, can you please help with the history merging of the two pages (this draft and my draft)? SomethingToTellYou (talk) 20:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
SomethingToTellYou, Thanks. Good idea: The Cure. I'd help with merging but I don't know how and I am not an admin. You'll have to submit a request somewhere or wait until an admin weighs in here. Sorry, I did not see this was addressed to SNUGGUMS. Never mind! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:09, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late response, but no I cannot merge histories because I'm not an admin, and it's probably better to just redirect one draft to the other anyway. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:56, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

@SomethingToTellYou: Thanks for adding the merge template to Draft:Chromatica. I've added one to this page as well. I think these templates just encourage discussion, but please share an update if an editor takes action and/or redirect Draft:Chromatica to this page once you're satisfied. Thanks again for your work here! ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

@GenQuest: I wonder if you might be able to help with this merge request? Editors are now working on 2 draft articles for the same topic. Would be helpful to get Draft:Chromatica merged into Draft:LG6 sooner than later. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree; the pages should be merged into Draft:LG6. Chromatica is not a verified title; even Variety states it is speculated. livelikemusic talk! 23:05, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The histmerge was rejected, I think because the newer draft was not a copy/paste of the older draft. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:39, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
@SomethingToTellYou: Draft:Chromatica has been deleted, and I assume the reviewing editor felt your copy and pastes from Draft:Chromatica to Draft:LG6 were sufficient for attribution. Do you mind if I archive this section since this seems to be resolved? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:47, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
@Another Believer: That’s fine! SomethingToTellYou (talk)

Confirmed tracks?

Are Babylon and Rain on Me confirmed tracks? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Album cover

Gaga has said on Twitter that the pink cover with the swirl on it is "not the album cover but we made it for you to enjoy in the meantime". I don't think we should be uploading it or putting the temporary cover here just to placate editors wanting any image to go in the infobox for mere decoration. If it's not the final album cover, it should not be put there yet, regardless of whether Apple Music use it as a placeholder on their website or not. Ss112 17:14, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:56, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Leak of album cover

Yesterday Czech online retailer "CD-hudba" accidentally leaked the assumed final cover artwork of Chromatica. Until the official confirmation that that leaked artwork actually is official, I understand not adding or mentioning it in the article altogether. But if the leaked artwork is truly the official one, it should be mentioned that it leaked on April 4th, via CD-hudba. --88.66.227.50 (talk) 11:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

It also should be mentioned that shortly after the leak, Lady Gaga's official shop uploaded the leaked picture to their web shop, but took it down after a few minutes again. The leaked coverart still shows up as a preview thumbnail when Gaga's online shop is linked. Also, the leaked cover art has been uploaded to the Shopify cloud servers that Gaga's online shop uses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.66.227.50 (talk) 12:05, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Chromatica

Resolved

The lead says that "The word 'Chromatica,' [is] a protolgistic spelling of the word chromatic". This sounds like nonsense to me, as the word is thousands of years old: chromatica is simply the feminine form of chromaticus (chromatic) in Latin. —capmo (talk) 16:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Capmo, I've not reviewed sourcing yet, but I've removed the Wikipedia article as an inline citation and invite you to improve wording based on what reliable sources say about chromatica. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:11, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
The RollingStone source just makes reference to the various meanings of chromatic, but doesn't go as far as saying that Chromatica is a neologism coined by Gaga. —capmo (talk) 16:18, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Capmo, Then by all means remove unsourced claims. :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:22, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll do it. —capmo (talk) 18:33, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism

I would like to ask to ban vandal and also protect this page, so no IPs could edit it until end of this month. infsai (dyskusja) 17:45, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Infsai, I've submitted a request for temporary page protection. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I don't know where is place for such a requests, so I posted it here. infsai (dyskusja) 19:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Infsai, No prob! See Wikipedia:Requests for page protection for future reference. I use Twinkle to submit requests from the article directly, but you can submit requests in other ways. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Rain On Me (Lady Gaga song) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 22:35, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2020

The name of Vincent Pontare, co-writer of song No. 14 "Sine from Above", is "Pontare" and not "Ponte". You can also link to his Wikipedia-article. AntonCarl (talk) 11:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 12:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Gamer?

This source says, "Based on the tweet below (as well as many others) the track is due to be released on February 7th on radio, with a brand new album (allegedly titled Gamer) coming in March." Worth mentioning in article? ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:49, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

This magazine has it's page on Wikipedia, so I think it's worth mentioning. infsai (dyskusja) 11:56, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Songwriters

If anyone is interested why I put such a names in "Tracklisting" section, I just scrolled up every account that was linked in BloodPop's Instagram post with Chromatica track list. infsai (dyskusja) 12:22, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Producer confirmation

Axwell confirmed via Twitter that he produced Alice, Free Woman and Sine From Above. Article is uneditable so I don't know if this is the appropriate place to notify or if I should do so at all. https://twitter.com/Axwell/status/1259875710208000001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1259875710208000001&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgagadaily.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcore%26module%3Dsystem%26controller%3Dembed%26url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Faxwell%2Fstatus%2F1259875710208000001%3Fs%3D21 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mightbeaquarian (talk • contribs) 17:15, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2020

Add a new album rating by Our Culture Mag, using the code: Konpappis (talk) 10:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

  •  Not done. Edit request not complete/fully explained. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 11:44, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020

41.144.84.120 (talk) 16:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Good day I would like to site that Chromatica has received universal acclaim from fans and music critics alike.

 Not done: Claiming something has had "universal acclaim" is very difficult to do, as that would require a review of every source in existence, which is incredibly difficult. If you can find a source which uses the words "universal acclaim", it could potentially be quoted from there, but it would need to be a direct quote. Naypta ☺ | ✉ talk page | 16:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
No. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2020

change "generally positive reviews" to "critical acclaim." 2601:19B:702:12F0:1889:B2D5:9FBA:7B23 (talk) 19:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:48, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2020

Can you please add in the UK 38k were traditional pure album sales? Thanks music week is a source. 82.1.157.36 (talk) 22:06, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Even though you didn't provide a link, I found one and added this info. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 00:27, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2020

Hello! This is a request to correct a typo in section 9.5, Production -- Technical. Text currently reads "Mike Schuuppan - mixing (1,7,13)" and should be changed to "Mike Schuppan - mixing (1,7,13)"

The name was simply misspelled with an extra "u".

Once correctly spelled as Mike Schuppan, it should then be linked to his existing wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Schuppan

Thank you!

70.230.226.144 (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC) 70.230.226.144 (talk) 00:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done, thank you for this! ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 00:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 09 June 2020

The "AnyDecentMusic?" score is now 7.6 and not 7.5. Also, the summary of the critical reception lists the "AnyDecentMusic?" score as 7.4, instead of 7.6. "Aggregator AnyDecentMusic? gave the album 7.4 out of 10, based on their assessment of the critical consensus" http://www.anydecentmusic.com/review/11422/Lady-Gaga-Chromatica.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:582:4880:7F40:493E:116D:95CC:99AF (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

 Done ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 09:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Temporary artwork

Could we/should we include the temporary artwork of the album in the aricle? The Conception and artwork section includes some descriptive parts talking about that smybol that could use that as an illustration. --Sricsi (talk) 17:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

This part: A temporary cover art was released along with the album preorder, showcasing a symbol over a pink background. It received comparison to the yin and yang symbol.[10] The singer explained that the Chromatica logo "has a sine wave in it, which is the mathematical symbol for sound. And, for me, sound is what healed me in my life period, and it healed me again making this record, and that is really what Chromatica is all about."[9] --Sricsi (talk) 20:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
No... its not a necessity to the article. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 21:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2020

to make a link to the song "Alice" as I am trying to craft a small article on it in my sandbox Rileyspagheti (talk) 09:38, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done the article needs to be reviewed first. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 09:42, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Closed request Danski454 (talk) 10:26, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 05 June 2020

The "AnyDecentMusic?" score is now 7.4 and not 7.3. Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:582:4880:7F40:F14C:2143:2AB8:DF7B (talk) 20:58, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Free Woman (song)

I created a draft for "Free Woman", since it leaked. It's short, because of lack of my writing skills and lack of reliable references. If someone's interested in making it better, here's a link. infsai (dyskusja) 21:29, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

"Alice"

I've created Alice (Lady Gaga song), so feel free to trim content here about the song, or move over to the standalone entry appropriately. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:43, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Award nomination

---Another Believer (Talk) 00:41, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2021

There is no information about the music videos, besides the release dates and the names of the directors. All three music videos should have at least one sentence describing them. --5.38.178.93 (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC) 5.38.178.93 (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: Please write the exact text you would like added/changed, along with reliable sources, then re-enable the edit request. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 20:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Section about leaks

Shouldn't be there a section about leaks? Well, I know that from whole album only two songs leaked, however maybe it should be mentioned somewhere in article? infsai (dyskusja) 21:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Nope, per WP:LEAK it should only be included if its relevant and received coverage. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources

--Sricsi (talk) 11:47, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Genres + general editing

This article is mess and in need of severe copyedit. There are very large quotes. Genres are quote for individual songs as being for the whole album and there is the repeated addition and removal of fan language.

Can we be mindful that a genre should be explicit stated not vague comments like "electropop heaven". ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 17:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Target edition credits

So I know this doesn't count as an official source, but for those curious I did purchase the Target edition and while there are no credits in the album booklet, the metadata that is revealed when you rip the CD states that the writers of "Love Me Right" are Lady Gaga and BloodPop, with "1000 Doves (Piano Demo)" having the same writers as the main version.Gagaluv1 (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Please remove Unnecessary info

"Billboard's Keith Caulfield noted that 75% of the total units came from album sales, which were bolstered by "dozens of merchandise/album bundles sold via her official webstore, and a concert ticket/album sale offer with her three upcoming U.S. stadium shows scheduled for August"." This only adds unnecessary info to the page. Should be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukeaanthony (talk • contribs) 21:35, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done, it adds context @Lukeaanthony:. Billboard is one of the industry's most notable publications. If the information is available it should be used. There is no shame in this. I don't know why fans get overzealous... no one is saying anything negative about the album. However, 75% of unites shifted being sales is significant as it is unusual in these the current day and age where most releases are powered by streaming. These comments are therefore very relevant. Please stop trying to be censor the facts. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 22:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Although I agree with Lil-unique for this instance, the article definitely needs to be cut and some information removed. It's getting hard to navigate. Especially, the 'Songs' section. Plus is filled with quotations that need to be reduced as well. — Tom(T2ME) 22:31, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Agreed Tom. The music section is starting to get unwieldy with lots of small snippets cobbled together. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 22:38, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 June 2020

https://ew.com/music/lady-gaga-chromatica-behind-the-scenes/ This source could majorly improve this article. 84.2.20.99 (talk) 19:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --allthefoxes (Talk) 19:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Interludes

---Another Believer (Talk) 03:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Spotify? / Music and lyrics

There is an "enhanced" version of the album available on Spotify which includes Gaga's explanation and notes on each song. I was wondering if we could use that as a source. I don't really see Spotify used as a source, but it includes additional information not available elsewhere that could improve the article. I don't think this version would disappear from Spotify later on, so if somebody has access to the service they can easily check it out. --Sricsi (talk) 11:44, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, the Music and lyrics section of the article is kind of messy right now and perhaps this could also help in rewriting it. --Sricsi (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
These are often Spotify exclusives but I don't see why they can't be used as sources. They should be available on the free version too, just worth trying to link to the individual track pages. Might be worth re-writing the whole Music and Lyrics section and focusing on the most significant things rather than every genre influence. Songs like "Alice" also charted independently and received a lot of coverage that may warrant a separate page. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 12:40, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
Lil-unique1, yes, it includes too many genre listings and makes it uneasy to read. I'm just not sure how to begin with removing stuff from there :). I also thought that "Alice" and "911" have enough information and chart appearances that could warrant their seperate articles, but since they are only covered by sources that are discussing the album as a whole, I'm not sure they would not get deleted. --Sricsi (talk) 12:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

"911": single?

There is no confirmation by Gaga or her label that "911" is released as the next single. Currently we only know that she made a video for the song. That does not automatically mean that it's a single. Vulture, the only reliable source saying it is, does not back up their statement, it's the same kind of speculation that editors here keep doing. "John Wayne" is a good example from the past - the music video was released, and then editors here kept adding/reverting that it's a single. As it turned out, it isn't. "911" might end up being the new single, but I don't see this backed up by anything so far. Thoughts? --Sricsi (talk) 17:52, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Only??? The Official Charts Company names 911 a single. The link has been given below. BawinV (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Just because there isn't a confirmation from the label or the artist doesn't mean it's not a single. There are many sources calling it a single. The Official Charts Company called it a single, which is more than enough. (https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/lady-gaga-confirms-911-as-the-next-single-from-her-chromatica-album__31012/) BawinV (talk) 18:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
"Lady Gaga has confirmed the next single from her Chromatica album as 911, revealing she has filmed a music video for the track." - that's what they are writing there. They are basically misquoting her, as she never said it's the next single. They based their assumption on the fact that she is releasing a music video. --Sricsi (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Um, no. YOU are misinterpreting it. You cannot say a reliable source is "misquoting" someone. lol. it's literally the Official Charts of UK. it doesn't matter if Gaga acknowledges its status as single. if that was the case, half of Wikipedia's "single" articles wouldn't be singles... BawinV (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
There are TWO STRONG sources from reliable publications to support 911's status as a single. There is literally no dispute here. Not listing it a single is a direct violation of Wikipedia guidelines. BawinV (talk) 18:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
The reason I don't agree with this, is because like I wrote, the exact same thing happened before with Gaga's track, "John Wayne". And it was indeed not a single, in the end. But radios in France are now started to play the song, so it should be enough confirmation. (http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Lady-GaGa/news-115138.html) --Sricsi (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, "played at radio" isn't the criteria for a single. That's outdated. We are in 2020. What's a single and what's not a single has no standard criteria. What matters is that we get confirmation from reliable publications. BawinV (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
@BawinV: I would suggest adding those sources on the page for "911" itself, unless someone misses the discussion here and decides to remove it. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 06:29, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
@Nahnah4: Yes, I added the sources to the song's article. Thank you. BawinV (talk) 06:49, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Since when is radio release not a major criteria in determining what's a single and what's not? You should know better as "Betty" and "Exile" are only called singles because of their airplay releases. I think it's worth a discussion whether it's a single or not without an airplay release. For now there are multiple relevant sources calling it a single so I guess we can call it that, but a radio release would seal the deal. Kirtap92 (talk) 09:47, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
A "radio release" and "radio airplay" is not the same thing. The other user tried to suggest that it is a single because radios in France started playing it, but this is different from an official radio release. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs) 11:30, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
I was hopeful, but now I'm afraid that it really isn't a single. Gaga's team didn't say anything, it doesn’t have a cover, the song wasn't released on iTunes to buy separately and it wasn't added to any great playlist on Spotify. Let's wait, I hope I'm wrong about it. GagaNutellatalk 14:49, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
None of these mean that a song is a single. Once again, let’s point to Taylor Swift. Look at Exile (Taylor Swift song). Taylor's team didn’t say anything about it being a single, the song doesn’t have a cover, nor was it released separately on streaming services, and Spotify playlists don’t matter. What needs to happen is we need confirmation from more WP:RELIABLE, whether that means primary sources (confirmed by Gaga or her team) or secondary sources (confirmed by AllAccess or Billboard or another reliable source). Doggy54321 (talk) 15:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Diana Ross sample in "Replay"

Chromatica's 12th song, "Replay", may feature a sample from Diana Ross' song "It's My House", taken from her 1979 album, The Boss. This is shown in this Twitter video. Another piece of evidence to confirm this is the fact that "It's My House"'s 2 writers, Nickolas Ashford and Valerie Simpson, are also credited as writers on "Replay" on Spotify. However, I'm still not sure if this can be fully confirmed and added to this article, as I haven't seen any reliable sources that have reviewed Chromatica point this out, while the deluxe Chromatica CD booklet doesn't credit Ashford and Simpson.

911

This article contradicts what's written in the 911 (Lady Gaga song) article. Here it is stated that "it was released as the third official single in Italy on September 25, 2020", while the article of the song does not say that it was an Italy-only single. --5.38.178.93 (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Collapse year-end lists?

Should we collapse the year-end lists? We collapse the tour dates and that's much shorter... In my opinion, the year-end lists are worth mentioning but also not super important to readers even though the table has a lot of real estate. I suggest collapsing but want to ask if other editors agree. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:57, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Nope. Nothing should ever be default by collapsed per MOS:COLLAPSE. It is not web accessible. Saving "space" doesn't apply in the digital era. Where I see your dates collapsed I uncollapse them or argue they should be moved to their own article about the tour. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 19:02, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Legacy and impact

It is important to add a legacy and impact section for this album as within the music industry ever since this album came out, we have seen its impact. Artists have imitated the space like imagery aesthetic specifically popularised again by this album. The uprise of disco and pop music again is credited to the release of Future Nostalgia, After Hours and Chromatica. The use of the dark colour combination of purple and pink as shown in the album aesthetic and music videos has been imitated and used by artists such as Dua Lipa, Doja Cat, Cardi B, Lil Nas X etc. I encourage you to add this section as there are countless articles in the news and on the internet already discussing the impact and legacy of this album. Correctwriter96 (talk) 10:00, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. While I have no reason to doubt that you are correct, we need to cite independent, reliable sources in articles. Can you provide links to some of the articles you refer to? Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 19:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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