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About the owner...[edit]

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

https://www.wweek.com/bars/2019/08/30/cider-riot-releases-iron-front-cider-in-protest-of-the-portland-timbers-ban-of-the-antifascist-symbol/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/10/01/this-portland-cider-maker-fights-fascists-we-asked-how-his-business-became-the-antifascist-pub-and-whether-or-not-it-was-worth-it/

---Another Believer _(Talk) 10:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closing Nov. 10[edit]

---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How much detail re: SUV incident?[edit]

How much detail should be included about the SUV incident? This is an article about the Cider Riot business, after all. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Llywrch: Any thoughts? I recall us briefly discussing this article in the past, perhaps on one of our user talk pages. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:08, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since you asked... I definitely wouldn't add more detail. While I'll admit that I'm suspicious that an antifa activist was killed near Cider Riot -- could miscreants be targeting this business? -- no one has proven any solid connection between the two. Then again, if another attack on an antifa activist happens nearby IMHO it doesn't violate WP:NOR to mention that one, & let the reader draw their own conclusion. -- llywrch (talk) 20:50, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Llywrch, Thanks. So are you comfortable with the current text or should some details be removed? I'm not sure how his "aliases" or alma mater are relevant. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 20:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another Believer, I almost wrote that I thought there might be too much attention to this death, but after all it is a single paragraph of average size. I'll leave it to you to decide. -- llywrch (talk) 20:58, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The deceased's aliases are entirely irrelevant to the article, IMHO. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:00, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grand'mere Eugene, I agree. I've removed one sentence, and do share if you have any other thoughts on the rest of the paragraph. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:02, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Another Believer, The first two sentences and the sentence on Willamette Week's report tell pretty much the relevant facts for an encyclopedia. The rest qualifies as WP:UNDUE, unless the bar owner is a suspect. Again, in my opinion. Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:31, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grand'mere Eugene, Thanks. I've trimmed a bit more. Open to others' edits as well. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Status[edit]

@Cedar777: Thanks for your work on this page. Any interest in nominating the article for Good article status? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sources[edit]

The Oregonian September 7, 2019: Cider Riot owner among Portland Timbers fans banned for waving antifa symbol

The Intercept March 3, 2021: Life and Death of an Anti-Fascist: Why Did Police Never Solve the Murder of a Prominent Portland Anti-Fascist?

Potential sources to include in the article. Cedar777 (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courthouse News February 26, 2021: Judge Rejects Far Right Leader’s Claims of ‘Political Persecution’ [1]

+1 Cedar777 (talk) 15:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Oregonian May 21, 2021: Suspect pleads guilty to assaulting woman during May 2019 riot outside NE Portland bar

KOIN May 23, 2021: Man pleads guilty to charges from 2019 Cider Riot brawl

+2 Cedar777 (talk) 14:36, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder[edit]

Reminder to search for any coverage of a food menu to expand on the cider house description, and possibly add to Category:Defunct restaurants in Portland, Oregon? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 17:01, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]