Talk:Congenital anosmia

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The result was: promoted by JuniperChill talk 15:22, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that some people are born without the ability to smell, a rare condition called congenital anosmia that affects approximately 1 in 10,000 individuals?

• Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9283015/

• ALT1: ... that congenital anosmia, a rare condition where people are born without the ability to smell, can affect food enjoyment and pose safety risks due to the inability to detect dangerous odors? Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9283015/
• ALT2: ... that Ben Cohen, co-founder of Ben & Jerry's ice cream, has congenital anosmia, which influenced the company's signature chunky ice cream style? Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ben-jerry-chunky-because-cofounder-taste-limit/
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Created by AbhiSuryawanshi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC).

• ALT3: ... that 1 in 10,000 individuals are born without the ability to smell?

Why not make the hook short and snappy? Schwede66 05:34, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Much better! AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

• Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC) Looks decent and I like ALT3, but on second thought I'm probably not familiar enough with medical topics to give a good review on this. I'll leave it to someone else to give a full review. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• I'll take over.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Needs more sources for the Safety precautions and Eating challenges sections.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited: - ALT0 is verified. ALT1's source does not seem to mention food enjoyment. Neither of ALT2's sources from the article nor the one in Ben Cohen (businessman)'s article mention that his anosmia is congenital. Assuming that ALT3 is the same source as ALT0, it also checks out.
• Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: awkwafaba (📥) 15:52, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@AbhiSuryawanshi: I just want to make sure you saw this. awkwafaba (📥) 02

12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@Awkwafaba: Thanks for the ping. I would like to know if I can add more sources such as https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/01455613221111496 and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5865213/ for ALT3 --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 06:08, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@AbhiSuryawanshi: Both of those sources support the claim in ALT3 (as did the source from ALT0). The first one directly cites this article so that would probably be the best source. These should be added in the article.

The statement "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it." also needs to be handled. You don't want to have the article sound ableist and violate NPOV. The new source you added explicitly counters the statement in the article by saying "People with congenital olfactory loss may not miss what they never had." In this way, the congenital form of the condition is different from the acquired form, and this should be in the article.

You also need to find a source that says Ben Cohen has the congenital form of the condition, or remove the statement from the article. awkwafaba (📥) 16:42, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

@Awkwafaba: Thank you for the feedback. I have removed the sentence stating "Many people with congenital anosmia often do not enjoy food as much as others because they cannot smell it" to avoid any potential ableism and to maintain a neutral point of view. Additionally, I have revised the mention of Ben Cohen to remove the reference to congenital anosmia. Although an interview mentions his anosmia from childhood, which is often considered congenital anosmia, I understand the need for a specific reference that clearly spells out "congenital anosmia." Therefore, I am removing the term "congenital" for now until I can find a source that explicitly confirms it. --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 17:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

I wanted to inform you that I have now struck through ALT1 and ALT2. I would appreciate it if only ALT3 (ALT3: ... that 1 in 10,000 individuals are born without the ability to smell?) could be considered for DYK. --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 18:18, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

reference issues addressed suffieciently. ALT2 is rejected. Rest are fine by me, but OP wants ALT3, so let's go with that. Thanks for the hard work! awkwafaba (📥) 18:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback and approval of the remaining ALTs. I'm fine with multiple ALTs if that works better. This is my first DYK, so I really appreciate your support and guidance! --AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 19:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)