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A fact from ContraPoints appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 August 2018 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that the YouTube channel ContraPoints releases humorous, left-leaning educational videos responding to the arguments of the growing community of right-wing YouTubers?
The article doesn't give ContraPoints' legal name or gender at birth. These are historical facts that should be included in the family life section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:7600:2b67:61f7:f48d:aa23:65a9 (talk) 12:57, August 24, 2022 (UTC)
As far as I am aware, the channel has been called ContraPoints since birth and, being a YouTube channel, has no gender of its own. ;-) --DanielRigal (talk) 19:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense. The channel is clearly a woman, because it's never once been searching through a drawer for an hour trying to find something, only to have its wife, sister or mother walk over and retrieve that item from the very front of that drawer with an arch look.
Indeed, I once went looking through all of Wynn's videos for one particular skit I remembered, spending over an hour searching before the very first video I checked started playing on its own and played that very skit. Obviously, the channel is a woman. (I'm not being serious, as I don't believe this is a serious request from the IP. At least not one worth taking seriously.) Happy(Slap me)20:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is a serious request. I agree that the article is about the YouTube channel, not the content creator but since there is no separate article for Wynn, this biographical info should be included somewhere. A person's history is very important for context. For example the Caitlyn Jenner article begins as "Caitlyn Marie Jenner (born William Bruce Jenner; October 28, 1949)..." 2603:7000:7600:2B67:B595:D30B:62E1:623E (talk) 14:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Writing about people under their correct names while respecting their right to keep private matters private is not "some socio-political agenda", it is basic human decency. If you have a problem with the policy then you can discuss that on the policy's talk page. (I'm not saying that you should, only that you can. It certainly won't do you any good.) This conversation is off-topic and we will not be discussing it further here. DanielRigal (talk) 15:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to fight too hard to include this, but I do still believe that it has significant encyclopedic value. There's a reason why we have episode lists for almost all mainstream TV shows. Loki (talk) 17:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(For future reference: this is about Special:Diff/1190428622 and Special:Diff/1215183675.) I think my opinion is the same as at Talk:ContraPoints/Archive 1#Episodes_table??. It's not typical to have an episode list for media not made by professional production companies. There's not much due weight for the individual episodes, in contrast to many TV programmes that receive episode-by-episode reviews. There's verifiability or historicity issues here in that there is not a complete list, as videos have been removed and not all of them have been transcribed and officially published—but sources and the article are at least somewhat about these old videos. — Bilorv (talk) 22:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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change to her subscriber count to accurately reflect the current count as of April 13, 2024 which is 1.79 million compared the 1.73 million listed Reby 1929 (talk) 01:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because it's not notable. See precedents in other YouTubers' Wiki pages. It takes up a really undue amount of space on the page, especially because the sources themselves basically seem to say that the controversy is undue. Transfeminine people are disproportionately scrutinized, and bigotry is not a reason to claim notability on Wikipedia. I think that if anyone wants to add this section back to the page, we should discuss it here first. Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think it merits inclusion, due to the coverage, but it is somewhat overblown. It was rather a storm in a teacup but it was a notable one. If we can slim it down a little then that would be good. Also it doesn't belong in the Personal Life section. I'll move it, without any change to the content, now. DanielRigal (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that it warrants inclusion too and will add the rationale that her "Cancelling" video got significant of coverage, a lot more than most of her individual videos, and this resulted from the incident (twitter-drama though it was). I also agree that the section could be shortened though.--MattMauler (talk) 03:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done I've updated it to say 2022. --DanielRigal (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2023 (UTC)