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No 'Withnail And I'?[edit]

A Cult Film article with no mention of Bruce Robinson's 'Withnail And I' one of the quintessential examples of a cult film?

Mendik[edit]

Regarding " Academic Xavier Mendik also defines cult films as ..." I have read the interview and I am afraid that our article too liberally reinterpreted what he actually said. In particular I didnt find where he "defines cult films as opposing the mainstream". And other parts of the blurb in question. - Altenmann >talk 01:59, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't remember exactly what I paraphrasing, but it does say "... creativity does in fact lie beyond the mainstream ... And because they’re not constrained by the mainstream, their productions can be far more creative and challenging and often far more political." Perhaps that was it. If so, it could be clarified better. The rest of it is right there, though: "There are movies that are ‘cult’ by virtue of the genre" and "... what tends to happen is when society feels stable and comfortable the horror tends to be very joky and unthreatening ... Right now we’re in such a profound period of instability both in the UK and the US, it’s producing great movies." NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you realize that "defines... as opposing mainstream" is not the same as "they’re not constrained by the mainstream". Please rephrase in the article. - Altenmann >talk 03:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lede[edit]

The lede is waaaaaaay too long. WP:LEDE: A lede is supposed to be a summary of the article, not an essay in itself. - Altenmann >talk 04:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's perfectly fine. That page says it should be "four well-composed paragraphs", which this is. The article passed a GA with that lead. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely the paragraphs themselves could be pared down? I know this is an article of which you are proud, but don’t allow this pride to potentially cloud your judgement in this respect. Just my two cents Editmakerer (talk) 03:58, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The length is fine. MOS:LEAD says, "As a general rule of thumb, a lead section should contain no more than four well-composed paragraphs..." For some topics, four paragraphs would be a lot, but considering that this is a type of film that has a long history, it's definitely suitable, like with any film genre article or article about the history of film in some country. Furthermore, MOS:LEAD says, "The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic," and considering the article's length (about 9,200 words), fitting an overview into four paragraphs involves a lot of summarizing. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:41, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wordiness[edit]

This article is very wordy imo, should be split a bit up. Habat1165 (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll prune it a bit eventually. I was probably a bit too thorough, but it's a broad topic, and – at the time of it was rewritten – it was still policy compliant. Things could have changed in the past 10 years. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:28, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]