Talk:Daniel Parker (Baptist)

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Errors in “Religious Leadership” section[edit]

Under the section “Religious Leadership” I believe at least two places need attention and correction.

“Parker believed that the non-white races who were the targets of foreign missions were people who were descended from the wicked seed of the serpent. He stated that since ‘God would save His own children, and since the children of Satan were predestined to eternal punishment, any kind of mission plan would seem ridiculous.’”

1. “Parker believed that the non-white races who were the targets of foreign missions were people who were descended from the wicked seed of the serpent.” This claim is unsourced. Though it may appear that the footnote refers to Max Lee’s thesis “Daniel Parker’s Doctrine of the Two Seeds,” I found no such claim in Lee’s work. Nevertheless, the practice of Parker’s Pilgrim Predestinarian Church denies that Parker or his church believed such an idea. The early minutes of the church, during Parker’s lifetime, are still accessible. The church as a matter of practice received black members. For example, “On Sunday, 23d [August 1840], Received a Black woman by the name of Hannah by Experience, and Baptised her.”

2. “He stated that since ‘God would save His own children, and since the children of Satan were predestined to eternal punishment, any kind of mission plan would seem ridiculous.’”

This quote is in error. “God would save His own children, and since the children of Satan were predestined to eternal punishment, any kind of mission plan would seem ridiculous” is a quote from Max Lee’s thesis (p. 13), but it is not a quote of a statement by Parker. This is a statement of what some people said about Parker – “it would seem according to the traditional understanding of Parkers two-seed views that no mission plan whatsoever was needed.”

It is true and correct that Daniel Parker opposed the missionary system devised by the Baptist Board of foreign missions, but he did not oppose the preaching of the gospel. In fact, if one reads the entire thesis without cherry picking, we find that Max Lee concludes that Parker’s views have been misunderstood (for several reasons, some of which were Parkers own fault). On page 85 Lee writes, “Lest these non-elect have an excuse for their unbelief, Parker urged that the gospel be preached to men everywhere, including the non-elect.”

For now, I am placing this here as a recommendation for other editors to look at and perhaps devise a solution. Rlvaughn (talk) 16:11, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]