Talk:Dime Store (Portland, Oregon)/GA1
GA Review
[edit]- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
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Reviewer: Carbrera (talk · contribs) 03:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I am Carbrera, and I'll be reviewing this article for possible good article submission. This article looks like a particularly interesting read.
Full review coming very soon. Carbrera (talk) 03:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! Looking forward, --Another Believer (Talk) 01:38, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]- Both images need an alternative description
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- You can remove the unnecessary information here, like 'embed', 'slogan', 'chef', 'pastry cgef', etc., since none are listed
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Could you find coordinates to add here for the restaurant's location?
- Done. I don't know how to add coordinates, but I did mark the article as having missing coordinates, so someone will get around to adding them eventually, hopefully sooner than later. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:37, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Lead
[edit]- "It was established by Dayna McErlean, with additional conceptual development from Jeremy Larter, in 2014, replacing Leo's Non-Smoking Coffee Shop, a diner which had operated for thirty years." → "It was established by Dayna McErlean, with additional conceptual development from Jeremy Larter. The restaurant opened in 2014, replacing Leo's Non-Smoking Coffee Shop, a diner which had operated for thirty years."
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could say why the restaurant closed? If known, of course...
- Not really known. Willamette Week's Martin Cizmar attributed the diner's location and lack of nearby foot traffic as the reason for its closure, but I am not sure this is worth mentioning in the lead. Seems slightly speculative; perhaps worth mentioning in the article body but not the lead, since not definitive. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Description
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[edit]- What do you mean by 'finer diner' food? I know what you mean, but perhaps you could clarify or rephrase that
- Quite a few sources specifically referred to the restaurant as a "finer diner", so I was just trying to use a specific quote. If the current prose seems ambiguous, do you have a specific suggestion to eliminate confusion? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:42, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Maybe you could rephrase to "upscale diner food"? Carbrera (talk) 23:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:01, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: Maybe you could rephrase to "upscale diner food"? Carbrera (talk) 23:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Quite a few sources specifically referred to the restaurant as a "finer diner", so I was just trying to use a specific quote. If the current prose seems ambiguous, do you have a specific suggestion to eliminate confusion? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:42, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Paragraph 2
[edit]- Out of curiosity, what is Water Avenue Coffee? Is there an article somewhere for it?
- Water Avenue Coffee. It may qualify for a Wikipedia article (Barista magazine), but one does not exist yet. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Could you change 'a fried egg sandwich' to 'fried egg sandwiches'?
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm assuming there's a meatloaf sandwich, right? You didn't accidentally list meatloaf under the types of sandwiches?
- Yes, per this source. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I think you need a source stating what's inside a 'Boss-Lady's breakfast'...
- I did. It immediately follows (braised greens, fried egg, and sausage). If this is confusing, is there a better way to list the ingredients? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, I see what you did. My bad, whoops! Carbrera (talk) 23:01, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I did. It immediately follows (braised greens, fried egg, and sausage). If this is confusing, is there a better way to list the ingredients? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Paragraph 3
[edit]- Looks good here!
Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:47, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
History
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[edit]- Shouldn't commas be placed around 'restaurateur and developer'?
- I don't think so? They are just descriptors of Dayna McErlean. But, I've request a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors, so perhaps the reviewer will have an opinion one way or the other. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Do you need a source for the sentence about The Dime Store's concept?
- Inline citations follow the next sentence. I don't think inline citations are required after every sentence unless they involve quotes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Paragraph 2
[edit]- Are three source necessary for the lead sentence?
- Hah, I thought this might come up. Actually, in my opinion, yes, because there is some ambiguity here. Eater says it opened on June 4. The Oregonian also said the restaurant was "now open" in an article published in June 4, but also said its grand opening would be on June 16. Another Eater sources said the restaurant opened in July. Because of these discrepancies, I went with a "June-July" opening and mentioned the date of the grand opening. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:52, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- You know, I think we should just go with June based on consensus, but leave the three inline citations. Any opposition? ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's fine the way it is. Carbrera (talk) 23:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- OK, great! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- I think it's fine the way it is. Carbrera (talk) 23:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- You know, I think we should just go with June based on consensus, but leave the three inline citations. Any opposition? ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:03, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Hah, I thought this might come up. Actually, in my opinion, yes, because there is some ambiguity here. Eater says it opened on June 4. The Oregonian also said the restaurant was "now open" in an article published in June 4, but also said its grand opening would be on June 16. Another Eater sources said the restaurant opened in July. Because of these discrepancies, I went with a "June-July" opening and mentioned the date of the grand opening. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:52, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- "It began operating with a limited menu during the hours of 7am to 3pm.[4] Hours were later extended to 6pm." → "It began operating with a limited menu during the hours of 7am to 3pm;[4] hours were later extended to 6pm."
- Done. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:53, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Paragraph 3
[edit]- Looks pretty good
- Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:56, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Paragraph 4
[edit]- This is written poorly; if possible, move this to a different paragraph because its current placement looks sloppy where its at
Reception
[edit]- I really like this section; you did a great job introducing block quotes here; I like it!
- Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
References
[edit]- These all look really good; no mistakes have been found
- Great! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
End of GA Review:
[edit]A very solid article! I just want the nominator to look over my comments before passing or failing it. I will put this article on hold for now. Thanks! Carbrera (talk) 21:51, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your time and assistance. Happy to continue addressing any concerns you still have. ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:58, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Looks great! Always a pleasure to work with someone of your experience. Thank you. Carbrera (talk) 23:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.