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Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2020

Poppercornguy (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

requesting more substantive changes, if they are justified with reference to reliable sources, and not the subject of ongoing discussion.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:41, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Eminem as an influence

@Trillfendi: I agree that rappers should only be included in Drake's artistry section if Drake mentions them as an influence, not for praising. But his top 5 is included there and the source does not specify that they are his influences or if he is praising them as his list of top 5 rappers. With that logic in mind is why I think it is appropriate to add Eminem. --Osh33m (talk) 20:20, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

List of roles

Hey! Having just looked at the article, it seems to be a bit excessive and redundant to individually list all his 'careers' as the very first thing: Aubrey Drake Graham (born October 24, 1986) is a Canadian rapper, singer, songwriter, actor, record producer, and entrepreneur. I think a much more succinct and cleaner version would be just ...is a Canadian musician, actor, and producer. Drake is also the founder of record and production companies OVO Sound and DreamCrew, and gaming company 100 Thieves. His entrepreneurship seems to be limited to these three companies, and even then, I'm not really sure if they'd fall under the banner of entrepreneurship, or just plain 'businessing'. This also brings the first sentence in-line with the descriptor in the article title, and would need to be updated in the short description. ItsPugle (please ping on reply) 01:43, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Should IYRTITL, More life and dark lane demo tapes really be classified as mixtapes

I think the community has been over this before, but these releases do not fit the usual definition of “mixtape” in hip hop. They are not free and they are available for legal streaming worldwide. For practical purposes they are studio albums, and I would like to have a discussion on why they are called mixtapes. I know that Drake calls them mixtapes, but they fit the definition of studio albums and not hip-hop mixtapes. Drake himself called “more life“ a playlist and we do not categorize it as such on Wikipedia, therefore, why should we call these releases mixtapes when they are obviously closer to studio albums? This applies to other rappers as well, and I know that in recent years mixtape has come to mean essentially equivalent to a studio album in rap. Although it’s a real peeve of mine, and I’d like to have a discussion on Wikipedia and see if we can perhaps work out a policy change. The brave celery (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

can someone explain (or remove) the description "vast production"? it's meaningless.

duncanrmi (talk) 07:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 November 2020

I would like for the picture of the artist Drake to be changed to this one: https://prnt.sc/vsg3ky . I feel that this image is much more relevant than the current one. 174.44.70.158 (talk) 21:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

We can only use images published under an open license – Thjarkur (talk) 21:22, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Public Image: Referencing "The six/6ix/6"

I believe that it's important to reference that Jimmy Prime created the term 'The 6'. Though Drake popularized it, Jimmy Prime deserves the credit for creating the nickname for the city. It's important for the culture of the city to know its origins.

Source Paragraph 2: "Despite what the hip-hop world may think, Toronto superstar Drake did not coin the nickname "The 6" for Toronto, but it was rather Jimmy Prime who came up with the idea. Back in May of 2016, Drake admitted to XXLMag that he was indeed not the creator of the city’s nickname but it was a team effort by Oliver North, OVO co-founder, and Jimmy Prime (XXLMag)."

Sunshinearcilla (talk) 21:44, 5 January 2021 (UTC) Suggested by user: Sunshinearcilla

Semi-protected edit request on 3/19/2021

navyseal723 19/3/2021

removal of air craft from list of residence. replaced with new sub category in Business ventures ["Aircraft"] header.

[description] "in 2018 Drake entered into a partnership with Cargojet (Mississauga) in exchange for an undisclosed service (likely promotion) Drake would be lended a 1996 Boeing 767-24QER twin engine private airliner. This airliner would be rebranded and outfitted to be called "AIR Drake" and sport a livery reminiscent to his album cover Nothing Was The Same."

You would need to have more secondary sources describing this as an actual business venture rather than a trade to move it to that section. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

--added 7 new sources including a press release from the business partner in question.

The secondary references have to refer to this as a business venture, rather than just trading publicity for a plane. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

Add Spree (2020 film) to Drake's filmography and list him as Executive producer. This can also be verified on IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11394332/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast) 122.166.141.208 (talk) 19:52, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: IMDB is considered user generated and not a reliable source. Please provide other reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:07, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I managed to find one source stating that Drake was one of the executive producers, but I personally don't think that's enough for an addition. Sincerely, Deauthorized. (talk) 22:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC

Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs has an RFC for the use of radio station/networks' playlists being cited in articles. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Heartfox (talk) 00:02, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2021

Drake now has 235 Hot 100 entries rather than 231 as of July 17th, 2021 197.239.5.83 (talk) 13:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Possible category addition

Since Drake holds American citizenship through his father, would it make sense to place him into the Category:People with acquired American citizenship? 2001:569:78BA:4A00:DCC7:C46E:9109:8EE2 (talk) 20:50, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2021

67.140.7.31 (talk) 18:30, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

| partner = Rihanna (2009-2016)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Needs reliable sourcing that they were actually partners, not dating. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Genre: The North (Canadian Artist)

Genre: The North (Canadian Artist)

It Would Go Like This

Drake - Thank Me Later (2010) : The North Drake - Take Care (2011) : The North Drake - Nothing Was The Same (2013) : Hip-Hop Drake - Views (2016) : The North Drake - Scorpion (2018) : The North Drake - Certified Lover Boy (2021) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Izzynancy1811 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

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To add to article

To add to this article: when/why Drake began using only his middle name as his stage name. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Raps19 (talk) 05:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Bad link

Under drakes tv show list there is a link to a show called “the shop”. Link redirects back to the lebron james wiki page. While it was lebrons show, it shouldn’t be redirected to him. 2601:44:8902:E790:F59C:762E:7D3C:1D25 (talk) 21:38, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting it. Sorted it now. Solipsism 101 (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2022

Please change "French painter and former model" to "French painter, former model, and adult-film actress"

I think it should be mentioned that Sophie Brussaux was an adult-film actress. After all, this was part of Pusha T's “The Story of Adidon". Representatives of Drake also alluded to her occupation when disputing his fatherhood, saying "this woman has a very questionable background." Drake himself details the unexpected pregnancy in "March 14": "Sandy used to tell me all it takes is one time, and all it took was one time / Shit, we only met two times, two times! […] I used to challenge my parents on every album / Now I’m embarrassed to tell ’em I ended up as a co-parent." Given his own strained relationship with his father, I believe it is important information.

The Spanish and German Wikipedia entries do mention it and rely on the following sources:

• https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/how-pusha-ts-the-story-of-adidon-viciously-undercuts-drakes-celebrity
• https://www.thecut.com/2018/05/drake-baby-rumored-everything-we-know.html
• https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a21997319/drake-confirms-son-adult-movie-star-new-album-scorpion/ Caecilia24 (talk) 20:55, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

• If every woman who ever appeared naked in a video was now an adult film star, Kim Kardashian would be in the AVN Hall of Fame by now. Trillfendi (talk) 02:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  Fair enough. It was and still is frequently mentioned in coverage of their relationship and it played a part in his initial denial of paternity. Other Wikipedias have included it, so I believe it is at least worth considering. Caecilia24 (talk) 18:02, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:58, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2022

He was robbed at gunpoint in Toronto in May 2009 and made songs about the situation. Add this to his personal life.

https://www.complex.com/music/2020/05/drake-seemingly-references-2009-robbery-from-florida-with-love 2603:8001:400:B36D:411:AD4B:5F9C:7FBE (talk) 12:21, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Is this particularly notable or WP:DUE? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2022 (2)

Drake is vegetarian. He invested in Plant-Based Chicken Company Daring Foods.

https://www.peta.org/blog/drake-stops-eating-animals-should-stop-wearing-them-too/

https://www.complex.com/music/drake-invests-in-plant-based-chicken-company-daring-foods

https://plantbasednews.org/news/rapper-drake-confirms-hes-ditched-meat-after-vegan-hint/ 2603:8001:400:B36D:411:AD4B:5F9C:7FBE (talk) 12:51, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PETA and plantbasednews are not RS, complex does not mention that he's vegetarian. Please provide reliable sources to show this is true and WP:DUE. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Rec deal

100mill rec 7609028673 2600:387:F:5711:0:0:0:6 (talk) 05:01, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2022

"becaming" → "becoming" 82.132.185.92 (talk) 08:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 22:03, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

Drake billboard hot 100

Article says Drake holds 10 billboard hot 100 toppers. https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/drake-21-savage-jimmy-cooks-number-1-hot-100-1235106933/ read description in article. says drake has 11 billboard hot 100 #1s please update this DrizzyW6 (talk) 02:44, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

please ack DrizzyW6 (talk) 02:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2022

Hello, in the Drake Fashion area it mentions his collaboration with Nike and Air Jordan. He also owns the most expensive Nike shoes ever made, $2 million made out of solid gold, it's a cool fashion point and bragging rights for him.

I have a source in the article I wrote Hlejeune21 (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Source is broken, and the idea of bragging rights is not what a wiki article is about. Fbifriday (talk) 07:35, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

References

Controversies - Legal Issues

I don't think his being robbed at gunpoint belongs under the heading "Controversies - Legal Issue."

That incident is neither controversial for Drake nor does it represent legal issues for him. He was a victim of a crime, and the robbers pleaded guilty and were punished. If anything, I think this belongs under "Personal Life." Antigravity711 (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Canadian-American

If Nicole Kidman is described as "American and Australian" on her page when she was born in the US when her parents were visiting, and didn't grow up there, and if actress Saoirse Ronan is described as "American-born Irish" on hers when she didn't grow up in the US either, then why is Drake not referred to as Canadian-American when his father is from Memphis, he regulrly went back there when he was young to spend summers with his dad, and he has a house in California now, as an adult (or at least did until recently)? I'd say Drake is a lot more closely identified with America than Kidman or Ronan even if he primarily sees himself as and identifies as as Canadian. The brave celery (talk) 16:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2022

You say “In his youth, he attended a Jewish day school, and became a bar mitzvah.”

But you don’t “become” a bar mitzvah. You have a bar mitzvah, which is effectively a boy’s thirteenth birthday (which holds special significance in Judaism).

Revision suggestion: “Drake was raised Jewish by his mother. In his youth, he attended a Jewish day school, and had a bar mitzvah.” 2601:646:101:17D0:5D38:6A89:B57F:660A (talk) 07:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Note done, this is correct grammar. Drake became a bar mitzvah, he had a bar mitzvah ceremony. The bar mitzvah refers to the person coming of age. --Mvqr (talk) 10:26, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Drake

Drake is not Jewish . Check again 74.127.105.162 (talk) 04:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes he is. Check again. Trillfendi (talk) 05:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

drake likes basketball

Drake likes the raptors 104.138.209.37 (talk) 21:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 December 2022

consedering the fact he says it in about 200 songs; one of his nicknames is The Boy and should be added to nicknames Alllllkjh (talk) 16:59, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 19:18, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 1 December 2022

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Not moved. WP:SNOW close. It is clear that there is overwhelming opposition to this proposal, such that no additional amount of time would lead to a different outcome. BD2412 T 01:25, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

• Drake (musician) → Drake
• Drake → Drake (disambiguation)

– I think it is fair to say that Aubrey Drake Graham has solidified himself as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for Drake which can be confirmed by the great number of page views this article has received over the last few years as well as his cultural impact. Such a move has been requested countless times over the years with contributors arguing that the surname, the given name, or the male duck have more historical significance. Although this might be true I think it's fair to say that most people expect the musician when using the term in standalone usage. Few people are aware of "drake" being the term for a male duck and I doubt readers are expecting this when researching the term. As for the surname, out of all of the people bearing the surname such as perhaps the most historically significant Francis Drake, none of them are known mononymously. No one expects one of these people when searching "Drake" and the same goes for the people bearing the given name. Célestin Denis (talk) 03:01, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. The long-term significance WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for “drake” is drake (mythology). Shwcz (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  This might be the case, however it is not in common usage. When was the last time you heard someone refer to a dragon as a drake? The word drake is not even mentioned in the dragon article. English evolves and words with long-term significance fall out of common usage as this is the case here. Célestin Denis (talk) 17:21, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose as a rehash of Requested move 23 March 2019, Requested move 26 August 2017, Requested move 17 July 2017, and Requested move 3 (June 2013). Ducks, dragons and explorers remain notable. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 06:57, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  The term drake for dragons or ducks despite historical presence is not in common use. It is rarely ever used to describe these topics and I doubt that anyone using the term Drake will be disappointed to find the musician instead of ducks or dragons. English evolves and Wikipedia should evolve with it. Francis Drake, who I assume is the explorer you are talking about, is not commonly referred to as simply "Drake" so there shouldn't be any confusion with the musician. People looking for the explorer will search for "Francis Drake". Célestin Denis (talk) 17:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  Consensus can change over time and past decisions should not be the basis of all newer decisions. Just look at how many times the move from Madonna (entertainer) to Madonna has been requested before it was finally adopted by the community. Célestin Denis (talk) 17:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  There are probably still at least a few people who think Mary, mother of Jesus and Madonna (art) are more notable candidates for "Madonna" than the entertainer. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:18, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

• Outgoing traffic for Drake at 80% for the musician makes the argument by usage pretty easy, but this is a bit obfuscated by WP:NAMELIST having us move those two lists into separate lists another click away. Almost half the people who click on the given name go to the surname next per outgoing traffic for Drake (given name) while most people at the surname list click on Francis, or go back to the disambiguation page per outgoing traffic for Drake (surname). The general statistics are all split up for the same reason, as well as the existence of additional anthroponymy indices, so checking [1], [2], [3] isn't sufficient to actually get to e.g. the numbers for Francis Drake that require another bit of recursion into [4]. Overall, though, it is obvious that the musician's 11k per day don't come close to exceeding the total traffic for all other Drakes.
  So we're left with an editorial decision of whether circumventing navigation to point to the best known mononymous usage is more useful to readers than leaving it as is. I would personally lean towards changing the policy to more clearly prefer disambiguation over primary topics of either individual kind, because this is an encyclopedia, not a search engine. Teaching people to employ relatively trivial hyperlink navigation should be a good thing, not a bad thing. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 09:46, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  Just a note that the figure of 80% for the outgoing traffic from dab page is only relative to the most popular entries, and so only represents an upper bound. A lower bound is obtained by relating that traffic to the total views of the dab page for the period, which works out to around 56%. Probably a lot of the difference is down to readers who arrive on the dab page and then don't proceed to follow any of the links. – Uanfala (talk) 14:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

  Oh, thanks, that's a good point. Where do you get the absolute numbers for the outgoing traffic? I only seem to see relative ones in WikiNav charts. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

  Wikinav sort of has that: it's in the footnote to the very first section where it says "The actual number of incoming pageviews..." That appears to be taken from the familiar pageview tool, but it only takes into account views for the exact title. The total views, including ones that arrive from redirects, are at the Redirect Views tool. – Uanfala (talk) 13:51, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. No. This page has been moved too many times. This is the most neutral one. Drake is also not the primary topic of Drake. Trillfendi (talk) 15:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom, long-term useage is secondary to overwhelming page views in this case IMO.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per BarrelProof et al. ╠╣uw [talk] 19:49, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per BarrelProof. Also, nothing has changed since the last move—blindlynx 20:51, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose as before the duck has enough long-term significance to prevent there from being a clear primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:34, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose. Enough said. It's the same song and dance every damn time these requested move threads come out of thin air. And what happens every time? No change? Yeah, that's what I thought. This shit is getting old as hell. mediafanatic17 talk 22:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

  If everyone on Wikipedia applied the same logic as you there would be no changes or improvements. The past shouldn't be a model for the present and all I'm asking for is a bit of open-mindedness. The situation, of course, stays the same but I have presented my arguments as to why previous consensus might've been flawed. I think long-term significance should not be, in this case, as significant as common usage. This is not an Apple vs Apple Inc. situation where the consensus is clearly in favor of long-term usage. Drake's usage as per dragons and ducks is negligible to its present-day usage for the musician. I believe it would be in the interest of most to have the article moved which is backed per @Joy who cites that 80% of outgoing traffic for Drake is going to Drake (musician), although he does not seem to agree with the move. Célestin Denis (talk) 14:08, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

  The usage of the term for dragons and for ducks is not obscure: the corresponding dab page entries received last month 682 and 211 clicks respectively [5]. But yes, that's a lot less than the musician's 5,5570 – Uanfala (talk) 14:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

  Yes, because outgoing traffic is a single statistical indicator of user behavior. It does not paint even the whole statistical picture, let alone answer the question what is the actual interest of most users. For example, this doesn't even tell us whether users were somehow discontent with having to use the current navigation solution. Maybe users who open an encyclopedia do not have any expectation that a modern-day musician with an ambiguous name will not have to have their article name disambiguated? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 14:13, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

  That is correct but however current policy advocates that "A topic is primary for a term with respect to usage if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other single topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term." These numbers might not indicate discontent but they do however indicate that the musician is the likely topic when the term Drake is searched on a mononymous base. Célestin Denis (talk) 14:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

  Yet the WP:D guideline isn't just that sentence :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:59, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose move. How many times do we have to go through this? O.N.R. ^(talk) 23:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose As above, no changes warranted since last move discussion.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 01:16, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose per above, there is no primary for this topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
• Strong oppose yet again, and propose 3 year moratorium till next attempt. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:58, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

  I like the idea of a moratorium here. O.N.R. ^(talk) 00:51, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not the primary topic with respect to long-term significance, and primary with respect to usage by a smaller margin than may appear at first. I don't see the need for a moratorium: the last RM was 3.5 years ago and none of the recent RMs were particularly well attended. – Uanfala (talk) 14:34, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

  A steward, Jon Kolbert, moved the article to Drake on August 25, 2020, a move that was quickly reverted as going against previously established consensus. Seeing that the nature of the primary topic was still debated and considered, I opened this proposed move in order to establish a fresher consensus. I personally think such a move would be extremely helpful and wanted to see if the community varied opinions over the years. 3.5 years is long enough for people to change their minds and gives a chance for newer contributors to express their opinions. Célestin Denis (talk) 14:06, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

What is the value of identifying Drake's mother as Ashkenazi?

> His mother, Sandra "Sandi" Graham (née Sher), is a Canadian Ashkenazi Jew, who worked as an English teacher and florist

What value is added by identifying Graham as Ashkenazi?

+ Ashkenazi Jews can be people from any "race", so there's no value in saying Ashkenazi if you want a racial signifier + Is there value in distinuishing her from Sephardic or Mizrahi Jews? If so, what is that value and how does it pertain to Drake? 107.3.134.101 (talk) 05:35, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Being Ashkenazi carries a lot more information than "race." There are cultural aspects that go along with this and it would make him Ashkenazi by birth as being Jewish is matrilineal. 151.196.165.156 (talk) 06:37, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2022

Removal of script and references as inaccurate

-->REMOVE THE ITEM LISTED IN THIS BOX, replace with summation in box B

Header: Personal life ->Health and residences

"He also owns a Boeing 767"

Picture of Boeing 767-200

"A Boeing 767-200 airplane similar to the one Drake acquired in 2020"

BOX B

Addition of sub heading underneath Personal life "Aircraft"

Personal life ->Aircraft

In 2019 Drake partnered With Cargojet Airways, a Canadian logistics company. Under the partnership Drake would take possession of a Boeing 767-24Q/ER[1][2][3][4]. The 767 originally owned by Mid East Jet and used as a VIP transport for nearly 15 years was later retro fitted and acquired by Cargojet Airways [5][6]. In exchange for the promotion CargoJet prominently displays its logo on the Virgil Abloh Livery [7].

[1] https://www.tmz.com/2019/05/31/drake-massive-new-private-jet-free-cargojet-publicity-bahamas/ [2] https://www.readthepeak.com/blog/why-this-canadian-cargo-airline-bought-drake-a-plane [3] https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/drake-air-drake-airplane/ [4] https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/cargojet-announces-partnership-with-drake-870926160.html [5] https://www.jetphotos.com/info/767-28270 [6] https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b767-28270.htm [7] https://www.designboom.com/design/virgil-abloh-customizes-drake-boeing-private-jet-white-clouds-03-30-2020/

Replacement of photograph in section to https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10233867 with script "Air Drake pictured with Virgil Abloh livery" Navyseal723 (talk) 04:42, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. If someone else can figure this out, please clarify. Actualcpscm (talk) 18:16, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

I have changed directions to reflect what is being removed and what is replacing it. (Navyseal723) 11/29/22

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. You've been trying for a while to get this specific mention of Cargojet added. The sources you provided are unreliable, blogs, and press releases. We also cannot use copyrighted images from other websites. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:45, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

consensus for cargo jet mention (Navyseal723 12/18/22) will these sources work? CBS News https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-air-drake-rapper-unveils-new-massive-767-plane-which-could-cost-more-than-187-million/ FOX news https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/drake-reveals-private-jet-air-drake GQ https://www.gq.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/inside-drakes-185m-private-boeing-767-jet/news-story/4f41fef880868fb0df77bde313f7e210 E online https://www.eonline.com/news/1040472/drake-acquires-a-100-million-plane-check-out-his-souped-up-new-private-jet The SUN https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/4824562/drake-baby-blue-private-jet-big-screen-tv-gold/ The Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9469401/Drake-boards-200-million-private-Boeing-767-Jet-Air-Drake-flies-LA.html Insider https://www.insider.com/drake-private-plane-photos-boeing-767-185-million-2019-5 COMPLEX https://www.complex.com/music/2019/05/take-a-look-inside-air-drake

 Not done for now: Pinging @Navyseal723, @Actualcpscm, @ScottishFinnishRadish - Fox News looks good for this, but I still have concerns about WP:DUE - realistically, how much is an encyclopedia supposed to care about the specifics of Drake's jet? I think giving it one sentence might be more appropriate than an entire paragraph. casualdejekyll 12:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@Casualdejekyll I'm alright in terms of reliability, especially because it's not an extraordinary or potentially libelous statement. I agree that the specifics of the deal, the way they are currently written in the suggestion, are a bit much for the article; the history of the jet itself (Mid East Jet ownership) is irrelevant, and the rest of the paragraph could be shortened into a single sentence. If anyone wants to know more, they can always follow the reference trail, as is common for encyclopedic content. Actualcpscm (talk) 14:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Early Life grammar

Think we need to check the grammar in the Early Life section. Firstly, his father “is an African-American”, and secondly, you can’t become a bar mitzvah… Drake HAD a bar mitzvah. 2A02:C7D:7E38:3700:D411:B524:EDBB:A154 (talk) 11:00, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

First part fixed, second part is correct. When one has a bar/bat mitzvah (event), one becomes a bar/bat mitzvah.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 15:24, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2023

add "and Graham Central Station" after "Sly and the Family" regarding the groups his uncle Larry Graham were in. Nelsonke101 (talk) 09:26, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Hot sauce

Please add to article : In 2022 Drake was accused by an instagram model of of putting hot sauce in his condom after they had sex. She tried to impregnate herself with the contents but got burned instead. Reportedly she planned to sue him. This became a popular internet meme

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[10] 86.146.244.62 (talk) 01:02, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

We don’t entertain unsubstantiated gossip on Wikipedia. If a lawsuit actually comes forth then maybe we will consider. Trillfendi (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Updated the most charted songs in one week

Drake no longer holds the record for most charting songs on one week, it’s Morgan Wallen 7 weeks ago. 2803:2D60:1101:21C2:5C57:AE35:1D29:AC1A (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2023

I want there to be a section in early life added to specify drakes nickname in highschool "Aug Aubrey" due to his proficiency with the weapon the "AUG" in counter-strike source. Zugandbugandcug (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Tollens (talk) 01:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2023

Add “What a Time to Be Alive (2015)” to the collaborative albums part of Drake’s discography 2A00:23C7:2B04:2501:117C:AC59:8988:BA07 (talk) 21:31, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Xan747 (talk) 21:44, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Request to change the article title to simply "Drake"

Similar to Madonna, Adele, or Selena, etc., the mononym Drake has became synonymous with the individual. Signifying that it’s referring to the musician doesn’t exactly add much and treats it as if he wasn’t the most popular artist with that name. If readers would’ve wanted to instead read the article of perhaps Drake Bell, they would of typed that out instead.

• Sources for popularity (proof): https://www.vibe.com/music/music-news/drake-becomes-highest-selling-artist-riaa-history-1234718095/
• https://www.vogue.co.uk/arts-and-lifestyle/article/drake-worlds-biggest-pop-star StreetKnockerzEnt (talk) 21:02, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Drake is more than just a name, though. It also references ducks and mythical creatures. dannymusiceditor ^oops 01:35, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 31 August 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. There was quickly a clear consensus against the proposal, and there haven't been further comments for 2-3 days. Early closure per WP:SNOW. (closed by non-admin page mover) SilverLocust 💬 08:00, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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Drake (musician) → Drake (singer) – TLDR; What makes a person a true musician? He/She mainly plays musical instruments. Drake is not really a musician, he's just a singer. RMXY (talk) 02:43, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose, there is no definition of musician that fits this RM. Musician is certainly a better title than singer, given Drake, while singing frequently, achieved fame from rap and is still likely to be known as a rapper. --Quiz shows 03:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
• Comment Previous RMs: 2010, February 2013, June 2013, May 2016, June 2016, July 2017, August 2017, March 2019, May 2019, 2022. 162 etc. (talk) 04:41, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose; I agree with the previous comment; while Drake does sing in a lot of his songs, he achieved a lot of his success as a rapper. When his music career was starting up in the late 2000s, he was known as a rapper than a singer Dc55555 (talk) 08:12, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose The important thing is (IMO) what he is mostly known as. Yes, he is a rapper, singer, actor, songwriter, Canadian, human, man, etc. But how would you describe him to a friend in a sentence? He is a Canadian human? Most likely not. He is a Canadian singer? Probably not either. I think we should put it back to where it was in the beginning, which is Drake (rapper). First and foremost he is a rapper. Yes, he has sung songs and yes he has produced beats. But he is most known as (worldwide) and probably would refer to himself as: a rapper. Thank you for your attention. 46.5.255.22 (talk) 08:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• According to Wikipedia: "A musician is a person who composes, conducts, or performs music. According to the United States Employment Service, "musician" is a general term used to designate one who follows music as a profession. Musicians include songwriters who write both music and lyrics for songs, conductors who direct a musical performance, or performers who perform for an audience." So, how is Drake not a true musician? He writes, produces and performs music and has done so consistently since the mid 2000s. He raps and he sings so boxing him as a just a rapper or just a singer makes little sense. He is a musician. Leave it at that. Wallowend (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose; if we where to change the title, it would almost certainly be to “Drake (rapper)” or just “Drake” than “Drake (singer)” because he isnt a singer. if you listen to any of his albums none of them are singing based, and the only one that isnt rapping is dance inspired. He sings,obviously but he is mostly known as a rapper. if you called a drake a singer it would either be in critique of him moving away from rap, not that he is actually a singer. Alllllkjh (talk) 13:03, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• oppose he's teh example for a 'musician' in WP:SINGERDAB—blindlynx 15:12, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2023

Early Life section, third sentence: "His father's ancestry includes various countries from West Africa including Nigeria, Ghana, and Cameroon, whereas his mother, Sandra "Sandi" Graham (née Sher), is a Canadian Ashkenazi Jew, who worked as an English teacher and florist."

Proposed change: Period after first clause. Separate identifying information about his father and mother:

"His father's ancestry includes various countries from West Africa including Nigeria, Ghana, and Cameroon. His mother, Sandra "Sandi" Graham (née Sher), is a Canadian Ashkenazi Jew, who worked as an English teacher and florist."

Justification - Run on sentence with two different subjects. Can be easily broken up into two separate sentences. - Separating information about the father and the mother is incredibly helpful for clarity. - "Whereas" is typically used to express something contrary to the initial proposition (see the Corpus of Contemporary English - https://www.english-corpora.org/coca/ - for contextual examples for "whereas". Full linguistic breakdown and analysis by request). The mother's background is not contrary to the fathers. - Maybe sexist to compound the father's background with the mother's using "whereas." ADeNic8 (talk) 01:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 01:15, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

There is still no period after "Cameroon" on the published page. Otherwise, great! Thanks! ADeNic8 (talk) 16:31, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Now fixed. Karst (talk) 16:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2023

He is Regarded as one of the greatest artist of all time. 2A00:23EE:1560:272A:F0C6:9DE:D844:1563 (talk) 10:07, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Opinion; unencyclopedic. Karst (talk) 11:32, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Changing picture

Do viewers find me changing drake s picture disruptive if you do please reply with [I DO] Releeh labanep (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Drake father ancestry

This Complex article is not a reliable source. The scientific consensus is that commercial DNA tests such as do not actually tell your ancestry or ethnicity.[11][12][13][14]. Therefore, it is WP:PROFRINGE to make an assertion about his ancestry based of the claims of the Complex article, as this idea is not broadly supported by geneticists. If the claim about his ancestry doesn't actually come from geneticists, then the Complex article is an unreliable source. Helioz9 (talk) 02:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Well, no, you have too a narrow reading of PROFRINGE, because it's Drake who mentioned his ancestry. He might be completely wrong, it's what he says. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 19:13, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

The claim about the ancestry is derived from a commercial DNA test, but scientists don't regard these tests as actually being able to reveal an individual's ancestry:[15]

There are many scientific limitations to the home DNA test. “These companies aren’t actually testing your ancestry at all,” says Mark Thomas, professor of evolutionary genetics at University College London. “They’re problematic in their claims to be able to infer an individual’s ancestry.”

So the claim is not reliable. Although WP:NDN-DNA is discussed in the context of inferring Native American ancestry, the basic idea is true in this context as well. Helioz9 (talk) 18:20, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

The bit is as much as "Drake says this or that about his ancestry", backed up by a source about just that. You seem to disagree with Drake's use of a particular DNA test. Feel free to contact him or a representative. We take Drake's words at face value, you don't have to question the results. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 18:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Except the source doesn't claim Drake explicitly asserted anything about his ancestry. The interpretation of the ancestry is made by the author of the source, who is not a geneticist, making the source unreliable. Helioz9 (talk) 01:20, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

From the Complex article: “This is my dad’s results,” Drake wrote alongside the screenshot. “Does this mean I’m a Naija man finally?” So the source quotes Drake, explicitly. What you are doing is subsequent WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 05:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

He is just simply asking a question, he isn't actually stating an assertion about his ancestry. That doesn't mean Wikipedia can make a direct claim about his ancestry in WP:WIKIVOICE. That would be original research. Helioz9 (talk) 09:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I'll try to explain it one more time.

1. Drake says this or that
2. Complex reports on Drake's statements
3. The Wikipedia article cites Complex

At no point is that WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH. A tiny blurb, roughly one sentence in the article, can be based upon that bit. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 12:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I see your point. But I think the argument here is more about the DNA results being included in the social media post as the basis for the article. As is pointed out above, the tests are generally seen as an estimation? We can obviously discuss the finer points of it, but the concern IMHO here is that the line "His father's ancestry includes various countries from West Africa including Nigeria, Ghana, and Cameroon" is presented as facts. And if that is disputed, leading to further reverts, I don't think it is desirable to include it. And on a side-note, we perhaps should be careful with articles derived from social media posts. Are there any other sources then the Complex one? Karst (talk) 13:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024

Just change the amount of kids drake has to 2 RyanTheRapGuy (talk) 06:17, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@RyanTheRapGuy I agree with this suggestion! 2601:547:C000:8010:95CC:FD36:20B3:875C (talk) 13:57, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

I feel like "1 confirmed" would be a better fit Namealreadytak (talk) 14:19, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024 (2)

Change amount of children to 2 Johnapeno (talk) 07:07, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

@Johnapeno Agreed, it needs to be done 2601:547:C000:8010:95CC:FD36:20B3:875C (talk) 13:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024 (3)

Drake has 2 children, one son and one daughter. 98.128.213.242 (talk) 16:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024 (4)

Drake has 2 children Yung nug (talk) 17:25, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024 (5)

Drake has more than 2 children needs to be updated to UNKNOWN 2601:243:2583:E210:34F5:2736:7018:BFEA (talk) 20:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2024

Children: 2 112.204.120.38 (talk) 02:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:23, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Nice

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2024 (6)

children: 2 Huseman'sCost (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

He has 1 confirmed child. The rumors about a 2nd are unconfirmed gossip spread by a LA rapper who stole an old punchline from rapper Pusha T and repeated it with a lie. Instantwatym (talk) 02:24, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2024

Peppalover123 (talk) 03:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Drake is one of the most popular singers. Did you know over 83 million people listen to him monthly? Thats more then Taylor Swift. I think Drake is the best singer.

1. Than*
2. No
3. Wikipedia contains objective fact, not opinions.

Akamaikai (talk) 03:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Marked as answered. @Akamaikai, in future please use a edit request template in your responses, and remember to set the parameter to "answered=yes". EphemeralPerpetuals (they/them) (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

"My Man Freestyle" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect My Man Freestyle has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 25 § My Man Freestyle until a consensus is reached. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 08:11, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 February 2024

bbc 2601:192:8802:6310:4D4F:2990:FCEC:CDE8 (talk) 23:53, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Nope. IPs do not get the privilege to edit Drake. If there is something valid, we do it for you. dannymusiceditor ^oops 23:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)