Talk:Elizabeth Peratrovich
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What did she write?
[edit]Peratrovich is categorized as an Alaska writer, but no bibliography is given. Deirdre 19:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- I think someone was under the mistaken impression that she wrote the Anti-Discrimination Act. While it certainly can be established that she greatly influenced its passage, it's perhaps a bit ludicrous to suggest that she actually wrote the legislation.
While on this topic, two more things:
- Would it help to point out that her notability is mostly a recent invention? Coverage of notable Alaskans of the early and middle 20th century is sorely lacking because, well, Google isn't really going to lead you towards those sources. From my own experiences studying Alaskan history, it was long the case that the Anti-Discrimination Act was notable and that Roy Peratrovich was notable. Elizabeth Peratrovich's role within the context of the Anti-Discrimination Act was given its proper due, but it's questionable whether anyone considered her notable at the time. There is a source which explicitly states that no one really remembered who she was until a college student (at UAA, I think, but I've forgotten) started researching the Anti-Discrimination Act and saw her name appear over and over again in contemporary sources.
- I only glanced at it for a second, but it appeared that a recent First Alaskans magazine featured cover art depicting Elizabeth Peratrovich as Rosie the Riveter, accompanied by a caption aping WWII propaganda slogans. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:15, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- To clarify the latter: now that I took a second to think about it, the illustration is actually derivative of We Can Do It!. The magazine is using that particular cover as the avatar on its Facebook page. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 19:58, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I found the original image here. The magazine cover showed just Peratrovich and the yellow background, replacing the quote and seal with the "We Can Do It" quote instead. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 03:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- To clarify, the image used by the First Alaskans Institute on the cover was likely the original work, 'Elizabeth Peratrovich, We Can Do It!' by Alaskan artist Apay'u. An adaptation of that painting was used as the cover of the book Fighter in Velvet Gloves by Annie Boochever with Roy Peratrovich Jr. Shackpoet (talk) 19:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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Original research
[edit]I have reverted a major change to the article that is not supported by reliable secondary sources. The claim that Peratrovich was not adopted appears to be a novel synthesized original research claim based upon the anonymous IP editor's interpretation of census records. However, Wikipedia is not a platform for the presentation of original research - all material must be based on reliable secondary sources. Until and unless a reliable secondary source publishes this claim about Peratrovich's parentage, it cannot be included in the encyclopedia. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:29, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Google doodle
[edit]This article is linked from the Google doodle today. ☆ Bri (talk) 13:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
"First...in the 20th century"
[edit]Really? What's the fascination of typing "first" if you have to limit the category? It simply makes your claim look dishonest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.29.230.10 (talk) 17:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
Unreferenced changes by claimed family member
[edit]A newly created account, claiming to be a family member, is introducing unreferenced material as it is "family knowledge". These are not valid references but I am neither bonded to this article's subject nor an expert. I will leave this as a placeholder for discussion and to point out the changes. Ifnord (talk) 21:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
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Peratrovići
[edit]Kamo ide ovo srbovanje, da sve Hrvate pretvarate u Srbe. Peratrovići su bili Hrvati sa Hvara, a ne nekakvi Srbi. Elizabeth Wanamaker udala se za Roya, sina ribara Ivana Peratrovića, koji je postao poznati tlingitski umjetnik. Ivan nikada nije dobio američko državljanstvo jer je Aljaska smatrana teritorijem, a starosjedioci nisu htjeli položiti zakletvu Sjedinjenim Državama. Zeljko (talk) 13:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- From goo-goo translate:
- ”Where is this Serbianization going, to turn all Croats into Serbs. The Peratrovićs were Croats from Hvar, not some Serbs. Elizabeth Wanamaker married Roy, son of fisherman Ivan Peratrović, who became a famous Tlingit artist. Ivan never received American citizenship because Alaska was considered a territory, and the natives did not want to swear an oath to the United States. Zeljko (talk) 13:07, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]”
- An interesting point if true. (The Croat part; the conflation of Roy junior with senior is obviously not.)
- Qwirkle (talk) 05:35, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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