Talk:Elizabeth Riddle Graves

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 January 2020 and 16 May 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): TeelHSCI. Peer reviewers: Psmith004, Jmatou.

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conflicting death location[edit]

The text says " She died of cancer at Bataan Memorial Hospital in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on 6 January 1972", but the infobox says she died in Chapel Hill, NC (same date). The sources given agree on the first location. This apparent error was introduced when the infobox was created, in this edit.

I'll try to come back later and fix this if there are no objections. --Woozle (talk) 09:27, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected already. Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speculation/Sources[edit]

The final sentence of the opening paragraph "she was probably the highest ranking of the Los Alamos women scientists," sounds speculative.TeelHSCI (talk) 04:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sentence removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 10th source requires the user to make an account and the 9th source required the user to change browser settings to view it properly.TeelHSCI (talk) 04:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is nothing wrong with this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:22, 24 April 2020 (UTC)\[reply]

Section Headings[edit]

It seems to me that it would be more effective to have her personal life all in one section, rather than giving her life after her work its own small section. User: Jmatout

Date format[edit]

@Hawkeye7: What is the reasoning for using dmy date format in this article? I assume it is MOS:MILFORMAT due to the subject's notability being linked to the Manhattan Project, but other American civilians associated with it use mdy, e.g. Robert Oppenheimer and Elizabeth's husband Alvin Graves. –CWenger (^ • @) 19:49, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It was the original format used in the article when it was created on 15 August 2015. Per MOS:RETAIN, When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article, maintain it in the absence of consensus to the contrary... An article should not be edited or renamed simply to switch from one variety of English to another. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:05, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly MOS:DATETIES would apply here: "Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country should generally use the date format most commonly used in that nation." Not sure I have ever seen a biographical article on a non-military American using dmy format. –CWenger (^ • @) 20:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are plenty of them around, manly because the US government uses the dmy format. And for good reason; we had trouble with another article where misreading of the mdy format caused an error in the sources. MOS:RETAIN trumps MOS:DATETIES in all cases but all you need to do is establish a consensus for change here on the talk page. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@CWenger: What's with the sudden interest in Graves? Was she on Reddit or something? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Hawkeye7: Good guess! –CWenger (^ • @) 01:10, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]