Talk:Gerhard Weinberg

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Munich 1938[edit]

The article states that Weinberg writes that Hitler wanted war in 1938. Prof Adam Tooze in Wages of Destruction says the opposite, that Germany in 1938 was in no state to wage war on any major power, never mind two, and Chamberlain indirectly stated that if you want war now you can have it. The USSR, France and the Royal Navy were on full alert. Although Tooze does not mention Weinberg. Maybe this should be mentioned. 90.218.233.68 (talk) 11:41, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This can certainly be mentioned. But remember not to take a stand in the dispute, just write something along the lines of "this is disputed by so-an-so, who argues that in 1938 [blah blah]". And don't make it too long, because this article is first and foremost about Weinberg, just long enough to notify the reader that Weinberg might be wrong. And please include the relevant page(s) from Tooze's book, so that others can check it for themselves. Uglemat (talk) 12:15, 8 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
One should note that Weinberg is not alone in the conclusion of Hitler wanting war sooner than later, regardless of if Germany was ready or not. IIRC Bell's The Origins of the Second World War goes into detail on the various competing explanations. I agree with Uglemat, caution is required to avoid turning this into a Weinberg vs. Tooze discussion. Not to mention, what exactly does Tooze say on the subject? Not being ready for war (which appears to be the argument in the above comment), does not provide a counter to Weinberg drawing the conclusion that Hitler wanted war.
A mix bag of sources, with nothing said about the quality of them although I do note Spencer Tucker among them, also note that this is a common view: quick Google Book search.EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 02:33, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chamberlain, Halifax and Churchill[edit]

The article states that, in Weinberg's review of a 2007 book by Ian Kershaw ("Fateful Choices"), Chamberlain deserves more credit than he is often given for "ensuring that Churchill rather than the peace-loving Halifax succeeded him". Not what happened at all. Chamberlain had a meeting with Churchill and Halifax on 9 May to discuss the succession, after the Narvik Debate; Halifax could have been PM if he'd wanted to be but declined as he thought he'd be a figurehead PM with Churchill running the war. At this point the Allies were still expecting to check any German attack on the west and hold on until Germany crumbled (as in the previous war). The German attack on the west began on 10 May, coincidentally the day NC resigned, but it wasn't until 16 May that the German breakthrough came at Sedan and after a week the Allies were being herded back on Dunkirk. At this point the "War Cabinet Crisis" happened, in which Halifax wanted to approach Italy to negotiate an armistice. In that crisis Chamberlain sat on the fence for a bit but in the end backed Churchill. I don't have access to the Weinberg review so I don't know if it's an error on his part - more likely it's an error by the person who wrote the article.Paulturtle (talk) 04:14, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Army service[edit]

Recommend adding rank achieved in the army, occupational duties, and bases stationed at if ascertained in reliable sources. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 10:34, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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