Talk:Gilbert de Lacy

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June 8, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 20, 2010.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the military efforts of the medieval English nobleman Gilbert de Lacy at Ludlow later became the basis of the medieval romance Fouke le Fitz Waryn?

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Gilbert de Lacy/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sarastro1 (talk · contribs) 13:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I might as well do the pair! Sarastro1 (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"as they were held of the Bishop of Bayeux.": I always assumed it was "held from" but I may be wrong. As I mentioned in the other review, maybe explain this a little more for the general reader.
- I've reworded slightly, but I was always taught that "of" was more correct. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Although de Lacy recovered some of his father's lands, the border lands near Wales were not recovered": How were some of the lands recovered? (The given source (ref 4) does not say that any were, but the following refs obviously support this) Why was he unsuccessful?
- We really don't know how/why he recovered the lands, just that they were... Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"During the later 1140s, de Lacy was able to recover many of his father's Welsh marcher lands": How? It is vaguely implied that he took them through fighting, but who was he fighting?
- This is one of those very very confused episodes in English history and we're totally unclear on when/where/exactly how it happened. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, this looks very, very good. I'll place on hold for now. Sarastro1 (talk) 13:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! Sorry that I can't add more - but it's just not known... Ealdgyth - Talk 12:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'm aware that these things tend to be a little obscure. As I said on the other review, no real worries on of/from. I think either works, but I was always taught the opposite, that "from" was better. But no matter! Passing now. Sarastro1 (talk) 13:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]