Talk:Hailee Steinfeld/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Snubbed

Do you think we should add something about her being unintentionally snubbed by Lea michele? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.55.170.113 (talk) 02:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

No. 97.112.144.22 (talk) 18:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Occupation

"Jewish actress"? Surely just "actor"? 86.138.59.197 (talk) 07:32, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Agree. Never heard of it before.

--89.236.21.133 (talk) 09:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

TV credits

shouldn't here tv guest appereances be on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.211.140.158 (talk) 01:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Missing info

This is ridiculous, Turkish page of the actress is way more comprehensive than the English page. I'd make some edits, but whenever I do they are being undone, I guess I'm somehow not qualified as an editor. So someone who knows Turkish please go to http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hailee_Steinfeld and add the info there to the page. --151.250.141.216 (talk) 06:23, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Early Life

"Her father is Jewish[4] and her maternal grandfather is Filipino" I'm Jewish and find this offensive and inaccurate. "Jewish" is a religion and arguably a culture. "Filipino" is an nationality so this sentence discusses mentions her father's religion and her grandfather's ethnic background. Its a reasonable sentence to say her father is [ethic background] and [religion] and her grandfather is [ethnic background] and [religion]. But to mix apples and oranges is to suggest that "Jewish" is a nationality or ethnicity, which it isn't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.229.129 (talk) 00:23, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I saw that and had the same feeling. We would never say her mom is German but her dad is Episcolian. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 16:21, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

It would be nice to know if SHE is Jewish. Why is it so hard to post the truth about people in the media? You might say her father is a German Jew or something like that for ethnicity. Otherwise, Jews should be considered Arabs or of middleastern descent. Anyways as the world becomes more mixed Wiki needs a solution to describing people.honestly thid isnt a place to complain. shut up101.51.143.135 (talk) 02:36, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Friendships

Data added to this or any article, particularly a biography of a living person, should pass Wikipedia's notability standards; otherwise it may be removed as fancruft. A friendship, for example, should have received significant coverage—a blurb in a fan magazine does not qualify and may not be verifiable anyway—and ideally should have resulted in a joint project, such as a film or song. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or refer to the guidelines I've linked here. —ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 23:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

"Singer"

For the purposes of her article, Ms. Steinfeld is not a "singer"—at least, not yet. A singer, in terms of occupational notability, is defined by New Oxford American Dictionary as "a person who sings, especially professionally" while, to date, she has released one song in conjunction with one film. Meantime, since Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, we also cannot say she will be a singer.

Per the above policies and such guidelines as WP:BLPLEAD and H:IB, any addition to the article of "singer" as an occupation or a point of notability must for the time being be reverted. —ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 21:26, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Update: record deal signed and she's in the studio, "singer" is good to go in the lead, IMHO. As for the infobox, I'm inclined to wait until she's actually released an album to see where that takes "singer" as occupation/career. My 2⍧, anyway. —ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 01:46, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Ancestry

What the hell is "African" and "European" descent? Marocco or Namibia? Norway or Greece. Stupid ignorant americans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.80.182.68 (talk) 09:59, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Offensive much? 155.213.224.59 (talk) 16:23, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

I made the edit and yes, I am American so am using American common usage in this. (I do not consider myself stupid or ignorant, but I could be wrong). The source said "Hailee’s mother, who is of mixed white, Filipino and black ancestry". Black and white are not normally used currently to describe racial ancestry. Specifying the continents European, African and Asian seem to be preferred common usage. I would have no problem with someone changing the text to state black and white ancestry per the source. 97.112.144.22 (talk) 03:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I made the change to match the wording in the source. 97.112.144.22 (talk) 03:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is her mother's heritage described as "white, Filipino and black", whilst her father is described as "Jewish"? Do Jews not have a nationality or ethnicity? (79.190.69.142 (talk) 22:30, 25 February 2011 (UTC))

Because that is how the references used described it. 71.34.132.139 (talk) 02:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Fair do's. I suppose we have to work with what we have.(79.190.69.142 (talk) 18:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC))

I removed African and African American from ancestry/descent as this was just a rumor that has been verified as false by Steinfeld's rep to The Hollywood Reporter. See http://www.webcitation.org/5wwKoyjFg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.99.13.18 (talk) 20:00, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Also it is not necessary in the article to refer to a false rumor. The existing citation with quote in the references section is sufficient. 184.99.13.18 (talk) 05:35, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

The permanent link to the original THR story is here. —ATinySliver/^ATalkPage 🖖 03:07, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I removed two references of articles written by Nate Bloom as well as info supported by those references due to proven lack of fact checking by that author. African American descent is known to be false - that is supported by a reliable source - see above. Caucasian is also asserted by Bloom so removed that as well. Added a reference to JewishJournal.com to support Jewish father - for this type of info it is a reliable source. 63.231.102.28 (talk) 21:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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Directors

Why is there a column for directors for her films? Litch (talk) 18:38, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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One thing that needs to be changed in the article is Jew is not a race. This article implies that it is. (Sandvol) 9:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Infobox picture

@SkrrtSkeetit: Please stop re-adding the picture in, it breaks copyvio policies since its not your own work and taken by your own camera. Instead, its extracted from a Youtube vid, so all rights are reserved there (the evidence is right there?). You have already broken 3RR by reverting for a fourth time, so I urge you to stop edit warring and discuss here, else you'll be reported to the admins. Same goes for your contribs to the Alesso page, associated acts are not for one time collabs, else the parameter will be filled with names. Thank you. aNode (discuss) 15:43, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Middle name

At "Hailee Steinfeld interview. Radio NRJ. January 17, 2017. 2 minutes in. Retrieved June 20, 2019 – via YouTube." Steinfield states explicitly that she does not have a middle name. At ""Hailee Steinfeld". Encyclopedæa Brittanica." it is stated that she is also known as "Hailee Puring Steinfeld" but does not explicitly state that that is her legal name or birth name. This matches information on her page on IMDb bio written by Jaehun Han. We can't use IMDb bios as sources. The Brittanica entry is not a full article, just summary information and the aka can be from what is in IMDb. It is a tertiary source, normally trusted but we do have a primary source, her interview and own words, that conflicts with it. Given the conflict in sourcing and lack of importance in listing a middle name when it is contentious, I am removing it from the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Steinfeld's actual height

As of now Her actual height cannot be decided but in Wired Autocomplete review, when asked about her height, She said 5 ft. 7 in. Is that it? Kohcohf (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you provide details on the source so the information can be verified? Instant Comma (talk) 15:51, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

[1], but People says 5'8. Per WP:SECONDARY, secondary sources are preferred. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm removing mentions of her height because there are too many varying accounts. Steinfeld says she's 5'7 in a 2018 Tweet that is linked in her page. Then she later implied that she's lying and is actually 5'6. I'll have to find the old interview, but I believe she's also once said she was 5'6.5 or 5'6.75. There is no consensus, and either way, her height isn't a defining part of her career. Her modelling career isn't what she's most famous for and she isn't in any other field where her height/measurements should be given. She's also not notably tall or short either. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 05:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Her height

It says that she is 5 foot 8 but she is not she has said herself she is 5 foot 6 so someone who knows how to should edit her height 2A00:23C7:689E:DD01:CD15:2E79:B4E0:9BE1 (talk) 06:25, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Um where does it say that? MBlaze Lightning (talk) 06:51, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Her grand-parent being half African American in origin doesn't make Hailee African-American that's a ridiculous classification.

She is not African-American, she is a mix of various ethnicities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB6:6807:4600:6870:5ED2:3C63:853 (talk) 08:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Potential Hawkeye spoiler: Should her character name be listed as just "Kate Bishop" or "Kate Bishop / Hawkeye"?

Currently the article lists the character name as "Kate Bishop / Hawkeye". I changed that to just "Kate Bishop" with the rationale that it's a spoiler to reveal that Kate Bishop adopts the name Hawkeye since that isn't revealed until the very end of the first season of the show. Reading that here did indeed spoil the reveal for me. My edit was reverted by User:Maxwell King123321 with the rationale that the character name is the same in the comics. I'd argue that there's a large section of the MCU audience who don't know the comics, so it would be a surprise for many (I presume most) viewers of the show. The character name is also listed as just Kate Bishop on several authoritative sources, such as IMDB, Marvel themselves, and Disney+. Are those arguments persuasive at all, User:Maxwell King123321, and would anyone else have any thoughts of this? Thank you. JJC1138 (talk) 06:11, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for bringing this to the talk page. I see where you are coming from but at the end of the series she inadvertently becomes "Hawkeye". If you look on most actors or actresses' pages who play super heroes (see Elizabeth Olsen or Evan Peters) but weren't given their superhero names until later films (or in Peters' case, not at ALL), the names which they are known by are used regardless. I find it better to compare to other similar pages when making changes such as these.

Maxwell King¹²³³²¹ 10:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

There is a general consensus not to use spoiler warnings (see Wikipedia:Spoiler). Specifically, it says "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the plot." There was a request for comments some time ago, and the rationale for this consensus is summarized at Wikipedia:Spoiler warning/RfC#Arguments for and against. So based on that alone, removing "Hawkeye" would be discouraged. _signed,Willondon (talk) 15:51, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Those are fair arguments. Personally, I still think the article would be better with it changed, so I’m tempted to cite Wikipedia:Ignore all rules, but since I’m in currently in a minority of one, I’ll leave it as-is.

Thank you both! JJC1138 (talk) 18:48, 23 December 2021 (UTC)