Talk:Hyssopus (plant)

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Is hyssop the same thing as zatar (Heb.=זעתר). I'd like to see a photo of the zatar plant to compare with hyssop.

Hyssop in the Bible[edit]

I've added the beginnings of a section about the Biblical hyssop, partly in answer to the question above. I'll add more as I find it; please feel free to add or change as you see fit. Kay Dekker 13:16, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If a man's dying on a cross, what good is a sponge full of vinegar on a tree branch going to do? If you ever see me in that situation, please forego the vinegar. Give me gatorade instead, then get me down.

it is a symbol for sacrifice

The hysop is referred to as azov in the Bible —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.199.118.37 (talk) 05:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Medicinal Uses[edit]

I removed this from the article. Please don't restore it until it actually has sources. Nandesuka (talk) 20:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Medicinal use[edit]

Traditionally, hyssop has been used as a strewing herb.

Hyssop also has medicinal properties which are listed as including expectorant, carminative, relaxes peripheral blood vessels, promotes sweating, anti-inflammatory, anti-catarrhal, antispasmodic.^{[citation needed]} Its active constituents are volatile oil, flavonoids, tannins and bitter substance (marrubin). A strong tea made from the leaves and flowering tops is used in lung, nose and throat congestion and catarrhal complaints, and externally it can be applied to bruises, to reduce the swelling and discolouration.^{[citation needed]} An old English country remedy for cuts and wounds suffered while working in the fields was to apply a poultice of bruised hyssop leaves and sugar in order to reduce the risk of tetanus infection. An essential oil made from hyssop is believed to increase alertness and is a gently relaxing nerve tonic suitable for treating nervous exhaustion, overwork, anxiety and depression.^{[citation needed]} The Herb Society's "Complete Medicinal Herbal" cautions however that "the essential oil contains the ketone pino-camphone which in high doses can cause convulsions. Do not take more than the recommended dose."

I agree with your decision. This just repeats many exaggerated uses found in books about aromatherapy etc. They may be well-meaning, but are quite unsubstantiated. Responsible writers mention its thujone content and stress its inclusion in absinthe and the association with convulsions... The essential oil, at least, should be treated with caution. Cjsunbird (talk) 22:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ritual and Meaning[edit]

It helps to make articles clear with less abbreviations. People who are looking at this are probably not familiar with medical nomenclature. I added the Talmudic source, which may or may not be useful or interesting. I also changed convulsions to make it a little clearer. Really all minor edits if you ask me.

Dannyza1981 (talk) 00:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Convulsant?[edit]

How strong is the convulsant effect of hyssop? I need to use it for a religious rite in which I am to shower and scrub using hyssop prior to the ceremony. I get seizures due to flickering lights suggesting I have a reduced seizure threshhold, but I don't have epilepsy because I don't get spontaneous seizures. Would merely washing my skin with a sachet of hyssop cause convulsions, or does it take a highly concentrated form like an essential oil to do this? 209.134.115.80 (talk) 20:06, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hyssop and oregano[edit]

While in Israel, I was served an herb which was identified to me (in English) as hyssop, but it seemed identical to what I (from the U.S.) would call oregano. In looking at the articles about hyssop, oregano, and ezov, the relationship of hyssop to oregano is not discussed, except that there is passing mention to origanum in the article on ezov. Are they the same? Or is there a use of the modern term "hyssop" that includes oregano? Other web resources seem to indicate a connection there, but I haven't found any reliable source. AlbertBickford (talk) 12:46, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying the True Biblical Hyssop[edit]

I found this over the web. I think we need better and most current sources for this controversy about identifying the true Biblical hyssop. But anyways heres one site: www .newton.dep.anl.gov/natbltn/100-199/nb188.htm

It does mention the problems with the King James version of the Bible (it being not a reliable source for plant identification due to careless errors etc) which isnt mentioned in the article. I'm not a particular good writer. So if someone who is please incorporated it into the wiki article.

Henry123ifa (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]