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Reviewer: Sahara4u (talk · contribs) 06:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

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  • Link Australia to Australia cricket team. Same for others……
  • You may link “appendicitis, pneumonia, sea-sickness” many of our viewers will need this

First-class cricketer

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  • Not quite sure what you mean here. What should be linked? If you mean Hobbs or Hayward, this would be unnecessary. Hayward is linked to his own article, and nothing in this section mentions 100 first class centuries. Sarastro1 (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, I see what you mean now. Such a link shouldn't go at the top like that; the only reason those two articles are linked is because they are the main articles of which the section following the link is a summary. Maybe worth adding to a "See also" section, but I don't think it is relevant enough to Hobbs to be worth including. Also, there is a template carrying that very information at the bottom of the article. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:20, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Making his debut on 24 April 1905 against a team representing the "Gentlemen of England"….. I think this should be "Having made……….."
  • Link Wisden, The Times 1st
  • "only three men to pass 2,000 runs" A note to who were the others.
  • I have to disagree again; if we mention who scored more/had a better average than Hobbs each season, it will be far too much detail. Hobbs was frequently not the leading batsman in a particular season. I think in this case, this is enough to show that Hobbs was one of the best batsmen. Who the other two (Hayward and J Tyldesley, FWIW) were has little relevance to Hobbs. Sarastro1 (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First tour to Australia

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  • "Eventually, England needed 282 to win.[58] Hobbs scored 28 but England went on to win the match by one wicket." The 1st sentence is very short and do you really mean that England won the match?

Continued success

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  • "The home side also lost the third Test. Hobbs scored 12 and 30, the latter the highest score of the innings." Could you merge these sentences?
  • “"As England had few effective pace bowlers on the tour, Hobbs opening the bowling in the first two Tests, as well as the batting.[82]" You mean “opened the bowling”?
  • "England won the match by nine wickets and the series finished 3–2." who won the series?
  • "Later, he once more opened the bowling,[86] dismissing Reggie Schwarz, his only Test wicket.[82]" and in the next para "Bowling more frequently than in other seasons, Hobbs also took 28 wickets.[39]" can you clarify this? i.e FC wickets

Success against Australia

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  • Hobbs scored 126 not out, his first century against Australia, you may link not out
  • "....this time Hobbs and Rhodes added 147 for the first wicket and Hobbs scored 187." I think it should be"…and Hobbs went on to score 187." There may be other sentences in the article like this.
  • "Their partnership remained an overall Test record for 22 years and the highest for the first wicket until 1948.[102]" add note, who broke the record.
  • He was finally dismissed for 178.[104] Very short sentence… can you merge this?
  • "In addition, Hobbs ran out 15 batsmen and Warner praised his fielding at cover point.[108]" A link to run out

Years before the war

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  • Link Sydney Barnes

First World War

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  • "In May 1915, Hobbs began........" Not keen starting a sentence with date, could you arrange this at the end of the sentence?
  • Royal Air Force -> Royal Air Force (RAF)

Resumption of cricket

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  • "Four of his 11 first-class centuries………" Use either four or 11 format
  • "Sir Berkley Moynihan, z prominent surgeon based in Leeds." ……..a prominent surgeon based in Leeds.
  • "Overall, he scored 2,087 runs at 37.95.[36]" …………….Overall, he scored 2,087 runs at 37.95. in the season.

Partnership with Sutcliffe

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  • "Hobbs went on to his seventh century against Australia….." -> …went on to score his seventh century……

Peak of popularity

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  • Link West Indies and of course it should be “the West Indies”.

Final Tests

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  • "…….W. G. Grace's record aggregate of runs in a first-class career.[247]" -> A note rgarding Grace’s score
  • "Australian fielders gave him three cheers" -> What is three chairs? Explaination needed.

End of career

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  • "Wisden never recognised the centuries and so record his total of centuries as 197.[253][254] Other authorities give 199 centuries.[255]" Could you merge the sentences
  • “In 1932, although he missed ……….” Again a sentence starting with “In 1932”.
  • This is a perfectly acceptable to begin a sentence. Grammatically, it is not much different to saying "During August", "Last week", or "In the war". It is only a problem if a succession of sentences begin like this in a short time. Then it becomes WP:PROSELINE. But the instances mentioned here are quite far apart and I don't think it is a problem. Sarastro1 (talk) 16:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Same for "1933, Hobbs scored 1,105………" and "In February 1935, he announced…."
  • Link ESPNcricinfo

Reputation and legacy

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  • "Hobbs was twice selected as Wisden's Cricketer of the Year…" When? Years needed.
  • Any link to "all-time World XI"?

Family life

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  • "Hobbs so disliked being separated from his……" -> Hobbs disliked
  • Link St Matthew's, Cambridge

Reirement

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  • May be "Retirement and death"
  • "In 1946, Hobbs became the" …… and "In 1953, Hobbs was knighted…." Same as above and "knighted" needs explaination.
  • “She died in March 1963. Hobbs' health began to fail shortly afterwards and he died on 21 December 1963.” Could you merge these sentences?

Notes

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  • "In 1930, the Ashes Tests were….." As above

Zia Khan 06:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images

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  • A slight modification required in Final Tests' image.
  • A slight modification to "A man standing wearing cricket whites"
  • Not a big issue, its just fine and thanks for replying so repidly. 19:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm not very good when it comes to review images, so I'll need additional comments from other reviewers. Zia Khan 19:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images have been reviewed by NapHit, no issues. Zia Khan 19:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review and comments so far. Sarastro1 (talk) 16:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for bieng so quick. Great work with the article. Zia Khan 19:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Final review

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GA review (see Wikipedia:Good article criteria and WP:GACN)
  1. Well written.
    a (clear and concise prose which doesn't violate copyright laws, grammar and spelling are correct): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, and fiction:
  2. Factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (well referenced): b (citations to reliable sources): c (Wikipedia:No original research):
  3. Broad in its coverage.
    a (covers major aspects): b (well focused):
  4. Neutral .
    Fair representation, no bias:
  5. Stable.
    No edit wars nor disputed contents:
  6. Illustrated appropriately by images.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Conclusion: A notable article with inclusion criteria, about a notable individual, just one step away from becoming a featured article. Zia Khan 19:58, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Pass/Fail: