Talk:Jeff Hardy/Archive 3

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Jeff's MySpace

I found Jeff's MySpace (www.myspace.com/itchweeed), and it's the real one, mainly because it has got Matt Hardy and The Hardy Show on his friends list. Anybody mind adding it to the article under External Links? 213.198.220.176 (talk) 13:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't necessarily verify the authenticity of the profile.  Hazardous Matt  14:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I have his bands myspace and the other day Peroxwhy?gen posted a builitin (its real there is a link to it on this page) saying not to give money to a fake beth britt in that same bulletion it said that itchweeed was real but a made up charicter of jeffs not a personal page there is no jeff hardy personal page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.102.132 (talk) 07:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Jammercena (talk) 19:54, 4 May 2008 (UTC)Jammercena

I'll try to add that page because it's correct.

The Peroxwhy?gen Myspace Page states there is not an official Jeff Hardy Myspace page. They are mere imitators or fansites, which shall not be included in the article PepsiPlunge13™ 21:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by PepsiPlunge13 (talk • contribs)

As I stated elsewhere on this talk page, Matt says on HIS Myspace (which was verified in this month's and I believe older editions of WWE Magazine, along with photos of himself holding the URL on paper) that Jeff has never made a Myspace, so yes, the ones you found are fakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.70.219.136 (talk) 21:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Semi-Protection

I've had the article semi-protected for 3 months due to a whole load of vandalism and unsourced infomation being added. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:31, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

HEEL?

I don´t think he´s gone heel yet. we should wait for next week to be suireKalajan (talk) 10:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Hardy attacking other heels, i.e. Miz + Morrison, doesn't automatically make Hardy heel. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

It seemed obvious to me that he wasn't turning heel, he was just prooving that he is still "extreme". It's like when Hardy would hit the Twist of Fate on Triple H before their PPV matches. TJ Spyke 14:14, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Even though he attacked heels like Miz, Morrison and Kozlov he attacked a fan favorite, The Undertaker. As a result of that he's been showing signs of a tweener (not a heel, not a face), Also did you see his entrance no dancing just walking to the ring, well we will wait till next week in his Extreme Rules with The Undertaker to see if he's still face, or if he's heel or a tweener.--Brothers of destruction (talk) 17:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, exactly. Wait. We don't know and anything that gets added in is original research. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah he'll probably get allied with vickie but just in case we'll wait. Kalajan (talk) 21:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

He's probably going to turn heel soon and its weird to see Khali as a heel 72.137.92.174 (talk) 18:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

wikipedia is not a forum. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Usually, when you pull a doublecross on a partner, it's at least the first sign of heeldom. Sure, he didn't fully doublecross Triple H, but he did screw him out of a win with his behavior. Plus, he attacked the Taker. His only high point is telling Vickie that she isn't immune to his extreme rules. Heels don't usually blast other evil entities. I hope not though. I like Hardy. One Pissed Bitch 10:34, 15 November 2008 (CST)

Now its time to say he turned heel and put a photo of him in his new face paint. And he said something about living in gray i think Kalajan (talk) 15:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Week-by-week, a Free image is needed, and still to say he's turned heel is original research. His interactions with Vickie Guerrero, and attacking Kozlov don't indicate a heel turn. It's a tweener at best, and that's still speculation. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:19, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Course not, he attacked undertaker and triple h too, and look at his face, how can you say hes not heel - in anyways u can say he changed gimmickKalajan (talk) 12:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

He used to paint his face years ago as well, and he was face then. Like TJ said up above, he's proving that he's still extreme, that doesn't automatically indicate heel. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 12:32, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

In his last run with WWE, he used to have facepaint not only on his face but all up his arms (by the end opf the match it rubbed off onto his opponent. TJ Spyke 15:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

add that hes totally changed!!!!Madmaxxx (talk) 11:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Read the section right above your post. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 11:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

but he walks as if he was drunk, thats a change of gimmick Kalajan (talk) 16:59, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems like original research to me. Unless you have a reliable source to say that he walks like he's drunk... Besides that's not really a gimmick change. He's just proving he's extreme again, as has been said repeatedly on this thread. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Unconscious

"Hardy was found unconscious" Angle or real? The reference is from the wwe website. So...?--Abhishek Jacob (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

At this point - nothing has been confirmed (whether it's real, or an angle). All we can do is wait to find out. iMatthew 16:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=34836&p=1 Well, most likely it's kayfabe, but I think we should leave iit out of the article until it's cemented, ie after the Survivor series PPV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DonJuan.EXE (talk • contribs) 19:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

From Inside Sources from the WWE, this event with Jeff Hardy being unconcious is a real event. Jeff Hardy was rushed to a medical facility and was diagnosed with loss of energy and high blood pressure. Jeff Hardy has been on scheduled events and recenlty flew into Boston for Survivor Series and upon his arrival and room at a hotel, Jeff traveled to his room and was going to travel to a nearby drug store for sleeping pills, until he collapsed in some stairs of the hotel. He will be releases as he is very fatigued but indeed will compete for his match, but do not expect much except for his signature moves and double teams on Koslov, as Koslov will control majority of the match. This event will be played as a storyline to give Hardy a hype as persay "Kozlov" supposably took him out. And will have him take out Triple H as well. It is also leaked that Jeff Hardy will not win tonight's triple threat on the interference of EDGE, making his return and fueding with Hardy to the Royal Rumble. End of Discussion.

No, not end of discussion. You don't provide any sources, nor did you even sign you name, so we can't take you, um, "information" as a reliable source.--DonJuan.EXE (talk) 01:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Agree with DonJuan. It's widely confirmed that this "consciousness" is a work (eg [1]) but we have to wait and see the rest. It's pure speculation whether Edge is going to return tonight and interrupt the match. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Nothing can be confirmed or denied at the moment. Vermon CaTaffy 8 (talk) 01:47, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Well the link I've provided above is deemed very reliable, but in any case, it doesn't matter as it'll only be added if it leads to a notable storyline. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 01:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

It's WWE and they want to ensure more PPV buys so therefore it's all part of the angle. 203.211.119.101 (talk) 01:51, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

you people really need to check out www.411mania.com/wrestling alot more. they confirmed that WWE staged the whole thing to make Edge WWE champ and make a triple thret match at the next ppv. and by the way this site has never been wrong on news since they lanched in i belive 1996. i new this was staged b4 anyone else knew cause just moments after wwe posted it on there website of jeff being unconsious i headed straight to 411mania and checked it out to see if it was real or kayfabe and sure enough there it was. in fact heres a straight article talking about a release.

WWE Releases Two Developmental Talents Posted by Larry Csonka on 12.03.2008

Happy holidays indeed…

WWE released Imani Lee as well as Mike Jarvi today. Lee, who was signed in May is a former K-1 fighter and a friend of Batista's. Jarvi was trained by Dory Funk and had the support of Jimmy Hart when he was signed back in October of 2007.

put that in your pipe and smoke. and ill stress the fact again.THIS SITE HAS NEVER BEEN WRONG ITS A EXTRODINALRY RELIABLE. IF YOU SAY ITS NOT UR FULL OF SHIT. (Jonathanmbarnes (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)JonathanJonathanmbarnes (talk) 06:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC))

Okay, first, only one person in the above discussion even considered it to be true. Second, please read this.  Hazardous Matt  12:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, even the most reliable news sites in the world are not right 100% of the time, so please don't say that 411mania is never wrong. TJ Spyke 15:12, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I will when they finally make a flaw 69.34.111.9 (talk) 01:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Recentism

Obviously being wary of recentism we don't list every win and loss but considering that this push has led to him being WWE Champion I think it warrants more than just he was in three PPVs and lost them. As an encylopedia we should be relating the story, which is more than the losses and eventual win. It should be said how they built the angle based around him not just losing, but coming close each time and then his eventual win, not to mention him being booked for Survivor Series but then being attacked in his hotel and him proving he was extreme by painting his face and going on a bit of a frenzy. And maybe as an aside put that he won a Slammy for the swanton from the Raw set although that's not too important. Tony2Times (talk) 03:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the above, i think it should include a bit more info about the angle, it should give someone reading it a better understanding of how they drew it out and built it up for so long.89.100.221.196 (talk) 20:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Protection

I requested page-protection since the article has been getting quite a bit of vandalism in the last 24 hours.  Hazardous Matt  14:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Why has no one updated his page since the champ scramble at unforgivin and his chase for the wwe championship

P.S. i once heard he dated trish stratus in toronto to a date at the rogers centre —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slash Johnstone (talk • contribs) 15:05, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Week-by-week information, and you need a reliable source for him dating Stratus. Also, please sign your talk page posts using 4 "~". Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I came across Youtube to watch WWE as I was bored and heard Jeff Hardy and Matt Hardy are reunited but I doubt it's notable even if there's a source for it as it could be "Week By Week" and plus, Youtube "isn't" a source which one of the reason is that the "source" would get deleted eventually and also it's not easy to find sources which is part of Wikipedia's job. Should there be no such rule, Wikipedia will be full of rumors, things that haven't concluded, etc. And I know this isn't a forum, thank you as I'm just telling you or rather asking you whether Jeff and Matt Hardy reuniting should be included or not. 121.120.25.112 (talk) 13:43, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Nope, but it may be worth a mention at the Hardy Boyz page. Darrenhusted (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Already on the Hardy Boyz page. ;) ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 17:41, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Since there is page-protection what somewhat note the Jeff Hardy is a one-time World Champion in his bio page similar to John Cena's current page "J Bird4131 (talk) 01:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)". Thanks J Bird4131 —Preceding unsigned comment added by J Bird4131 (talk) • contribs) 01:32, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

That would be pretty redundant, since it already says he's the current WWE Champion in the lead. Once he loses the championship, and the lne I mentioned is removed from the lead, then it'll be added. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 14:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Photo

I think we should have a photo of Jeff Hardy as WWE champion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.38.72 (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. A free one would be preferred, but that may not be possible yet (unless somebody who went to the PPV last night took a picture and can upload it here). TJ Spyke 16:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

It wouldn't surprise me. Jeff spent about five minutes posing after his match -- and I watched every second of it. 75.151.84.17 (talk) 17:24, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

If only more people uploaded (free) pics and told us about it. Tony2Times (talk) 03:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

A WWE.com photo will work fine, as long as it's not in the infobox, because as of now, there's no known free alternative. Mshake3 (talk) 04:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/3110247094_86f48ffcbb.jpg?v=0 is a great pic for it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.137.237 (talk) 01:53, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Face paint

Shouldn't we mention his recent use of face paint on his matches? Brady4mvp (Talk) 00:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't really see a reason for it to be added SuperSilver901 (talk) 23:08, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Jeff was injured on the cutting edge.His fireworks hit him.This was not supposed to happen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.107.87.134 (talk) 23:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it was. The fireworks thing is part of the storyline (made more obvious by the fact that Jeff said it's the same person who hit him with a car and attacked him before the Survivor Series). He wasn't really hurt. The rumor (and I stress RUMOR, not fact) is that it's Christian since he is gone from TNA and TNA president Dixie Carter even said he's signed with WWE. TJ Spyke 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No it was Matt Hardy who turned heel on Sunday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.137.237 (talk) 01:54, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Did he say "rumor"? Yes, he did. It was posted prior to the airing of the event. --Kaizer13 (talk) 02:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this supposed to be about his face-paint? Mecha13 (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

semi-protection removal

Could this semi-protection be removed please? It's really quite annoying. Mecha13 (talk) 14:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

It's protected due to vandalism. It'll expire in a few weeks, and besides, since you have an account, you should be able to edit it in the next few days. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

So the semi-p only affects ip's and new users? So how long do I have to wait? Mecha13 (talk) 15:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, only ips and new users. I believe it is four days from the time your account is created, but I am not entirley sure. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, accounts less than 4 days old. Mecha, it's not that hard to just wait a few days. There are plenty of other articles to edit and you can request any changes here that you think should be made to the article. TJ Spyke 19:19, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Mecha has been identified as a sock puppet of Kalajan. Cheers, JakeDHS07 05:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

HHH feud

Shouldnt't his intense recent HHH feud be added? They don't put anything about them constantly beating each other up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.113.193.137 (talk) 03:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

That's week-by-week. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

True but i just mean they should put something about their short but intense fued.(by the way i made the talk article) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpengo88 (talk • contribs) 05:32, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Move name

Just noticed this and thought it was worth a mention. Jeff refers to his rope assisted corner dropkick as the Hardyac Arrest in the video located on the following page: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/article1819783.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.37.34 (talk) 00:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, add it if it's reliable. Mecha13 (talk) 14:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately I can't edit the page, despite having been a member longer than the supposed necessary period. I'm not sure if The Sun counts as a reliable source - it's not listed on the project page as either reliable or unreliable - but I'd be very surprised if it did. On the other hand the video is of Matt and Jeff talking directly into the camera, so it's clearly correct, even if it's from an unreliable source. I don't know where to make the call on that. Sordyne (talk) 11:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay, edited. Sordyne (talk) 11:44, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

jeff betrayed by matt

at the royal rumble 2009 matt hit jeff with a steel chair and cost him many victores against his rival Edge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.73.155.99 (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The RR is already mentioned, and "may cost him many victories" is pure speculation. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

music, sculpture & painting involvement

Jeff Hardy also involve in music, sculpture, & painting. So, should we write that "Jeff Hardy is an American professional wrestler, musician, sculptor, and painter" instead of just "professional wrestler"? --Rimara (talk) 13:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Those are just hobbies though, so I would say no. If he were to release a CD, or sell a painting or sculpture, then maybe. TJ Spyke 14:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree with TJ. His music and art is mentioned in the lead anyway. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 16:02, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Substance abusse

It talks of him being suspended for the second time for drug usage just before WrestleMania XXIV but I can't seem to find the first time he did it. I remember him taking time off and assuming it was a drugs bust, and found it hilarious he came back to win the IC Belt off Umaga because he'd just been busted and needed to job the title but here it's only attributed to a bad fall; is this the first time he was suspended and we just don't have a source or am I/the article missing something? Tony2Times (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe that that the "bad fall" was his first time suspended, but we just don't have a reliable source to add it. If you can find one, by all means add it. WWE still wasn't releasing the names of the wrestler they suspended at this point either, which makes it that much harder. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 09:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

His Nicknames

Of what I know, Jeff Hardy was never called Willow the Wisp, Mean Jimmy Jack, and was only called Wolverine as a kid.

The ring names he now has are: Jeff Hardy The Strange Enigma The Unique Enigma The Extreme Enigma —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.130.4.165 (talk) 08:51, 6 September 2009 (UTC) The Charismatic Enigma The Legend Thriller The Rainbow-Haired Warrior

PLEASE CHANGE THE RING NAMES PLEASE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iverson1315 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, he was called Willow The Wisp, Mean Jimmy Jack and Wolverine in OMEGA, and they are sourced ring names, and the ones you have mentioned are all nicknames, and are in the nicknames section. Also, there is no need to shout, and please sign your talk page comments using four "~". Thanks, and happy editing. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 18:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

They don't have to sign their posts if they don't wish to. Killswitch Engage (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Can somebody please establish as to whether JH actually USED the ring name "Jeff Harvey", or whether it was a one-off typo by WWE back in the day as noted in the YouTube link; if it's a one off, it should be removed from the list of ring names. LancasterII (talk) 01:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy has never wrestled as "Jeff Harvey". It was an one-off typo on the title card (or whatever is called) that they flash on the screen to introduce the wrestlers to the fans. This is like a lot of the misinformation in the manager section of a wrestler's profile where people list every wrestling and non-wrestling personality that has ever accompanied a wrestler to the ring, but yet those persons were not really a specific wrestler's manager. If you need examples, I can gladly name them. Keep in mind that if Wikipedia allows this to stand, then there will be a whole lot of wrestlers that would need to have their ring names updated because of errors in the title card for a wrestler when displayed on the screen. Wrestlers like Shawn Michaels who has had his named flashed on the screen of AWA Wrestling shows as "Sean Michaels" and "Shawn Micheals". Also Lex Luger who has his named flashed on a NWA pay-per-view as "Lex Lugar". A guy like Teijho Khan who had his named displayed as "T.Joe Khan", "Teijo Kahn" and other variants in wrestling promotions in the 80s. The list goes on an on. Just because it's a typo doesn't make it accurate and like I said, if this is the policy of this kind of article for Wikipedia, then all typographical error names for wrestlers will need to be added to a specific wrestler's profile. 75.89.232.90 (talk) 00:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

WWE often use different names for jobbers (which is what Jeff was at the time. Can you prove it was just a typo and not a name they gave him on purpose? As for managers, all the people in Jeff's article were his manager at one point. 01:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)TJ Spyke

Can you prove that it wasn't a typo? It tends to lean more on the side of an error than WWE renaming enhancement talent. Like I said, if this is the policy for listing a wrestler's previous ring names, then there are a whole bunch of wrestlers that would need to have their articles on Wikipedia corrected to reflect misspelled names on title cards that were flashed on television when they were introduced before a match. Misspelled names of wrestlers being flashed on the screen (main event wrestlers and enhancement talent alike) were a common occurrence during the 80s and (up to the mid) 90s. Like I said, it doesn't take much to find these old wrestling shows that still play on t.v. and find examples of that common place practice. If their name happens to be misspelled it doesn't mean they went by that name or version of a misspelled name. Besides Harvey sounds a lot like Hardy, like Craig sounds a lot like Greg and Tully sounds like Telly. What's not to say that someone heard his last name wrong and that's how it got to "Harvey" instead of Hardy. Can you or anyone else provide other proof of times when Jeff Hardy was referred to as "Harvey" and I'm not talking about the Adamle error either. Like I said if this is allowed to stand then there are other wrestlers who would need their ring names data updated because of errors in the way their ring names were spelled. A guy like Ric Flair who more than on one occasion had his name displayed as "Rick" Flair on television. Want proof of that, go watch the Ric Flair vs. Pete Sanchez match on the Ultimate Ric Flair DVD. Better yet, check out this link and pause it around the 9:20 - 9:22 mark. His name is spelled as "Rick" instead of "Ric" yet no one bothered to update his ring name stat. There is too much inconsistency in the entire thing to be honest. You can't do for one and not their other. If typos count as legit wrestler names, then like I said a lot of wrestlers bios would need to be updated. As far as managers are concerned, I wasn't talking about the Jeff Hardy page specifically but thanks for the input on what I already knew.75.89.232.90 (talk) 01:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

WWE has done done names with slight variations on purpose. When Monty Brown first came to WWE, they gave him the name "Marquis Cor Von". After about 2 weeks they changed it to "Marcus Cor Von" (both were pronounced the same way). TJ Spyke 01:57, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not (nor is anyone else) contesting Marcus (or Marquis) Cor Von. Monty Brown has wrestled as both in the WWE. The point of contention is if Jeff actually wrestled as "Harvey" which there is no proof that he did other than what appears to be a typographical error that was typical of the 80s and 90s time frame like previously stated. The match in question I believe is Jim Neidhart vs. "Jeff Harvey", if someone can find that video and the announcers refer to Jeff as Harvey, then it would be a whole lot more believable. However like previously stated because it's a typo or slight intentional variation doesn't mean it's accurate. On WWE television Ric Flair was referred to as "Rick Flair". So on your notion of slight variations, Flair's ring names should be updated to include "Rick Flair" as well, yes? I mean because it was misspelled presumably intentionally wrong it must be true, correct? If that's the case the other examples I listed should have their ring names updated to just on the policy that you are stating alone, if not anything else. At this point there is no more proof of Jeff actually going by "Harvey" than him not going by it which means that it really shouldn't be included unless there is solid proof to support it. Who knows the announcers may refer to him as actually "Hardy" and not "Harvey" or vice-versa in that match but no one will know until that match is made available or someone finds it on the Internet. 75.89.232.90 (talk) 02:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Please sign at the end of your posts, not the beginning. It could just be a type. I just watched the video of his first WWF match (against Razor Ramon in 1994) and they spelled his name correctly. TJ Spyke 03:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Why the hell is there a youtube link as a source? WP:YOUTUBE. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

The scene is from the Hardy Boyz DVD ("Twist of Fate: The Matt & Jeff Hardy Story"). I just got the DVD, so I will watch it and then replace the YouTube source (which shouldn't be used at all here since it is to a copyrighted WWE video that is illegally being hosted on YouTube). TJ Spyke 02:26, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

2nd Person To and 1st Person to

If it is noted on Chris Jericho's page that he is the first person to win all 5 of WWE's top attitude era titles (Hardcore, European, IC, World Tag, WWE title) shouldn't it be noted for Jeff Hardy being the second to do so? and Jeff also held the lightweight championship too, so that would make him the first guy to hold every single title (except the women's title of course) from WWE's attitude Era. Jeff is the only one to have held the Hardcore, European, World Tag, Lightweight, IC, and WWE title. 69.248.229.206 (talk) 17:09, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

So, going by said logic, would you mention that a guy is the 17th champion to blah blah something? --Kaizer13 (talk) 17:28, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Plus he isn't the second. Kurt Angle and RVD did it too. Tony2Times (talk) 01:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

That is not true, and both of your facts are wrong. Jeff was first. RVD nor Kurt Angle have ever held the WWF/E Light heavyweight Championship. Jeff is the first to win all 6 from the attitude era being the light heavyweight, hardcore, wwe tag team, european, intercontinental, and the wwe title. nobody else has held the combination of those 6 titles. However, you are right about Jeff not being second, as RVD and Kurt Angle did hold the five titles of tag team, IC, european, harcore, and WWE title, so yes, I was wrong about the "2nd person ever"RVD were before Jeff Hardy. i was not wrong about "THE FIRST PERSON EVER" because Y2J, Kurt Angle, nor Rob Van Dam have ever held the WWF/E Light Heavyweight Title (which is different than the cruiserweight title which neither still have ever held "inside the WWE"). but like i said, Jeff is the first and only person to capture all 6 of WWE's major attitude era titles. the only other person that is contracted by WWE and has a shot at also doing so, is Christian, with he too being a former lightheavyweight champion, european, IC and wwe tag team. all he has to do is win the wwe title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.229.206 (talk) 23:50, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

You know, before you go on a rant you should read the comments so you don't embarrass yourself. They were responding to your comment that Jeff was the second person to win those 5 titles, they were correctly pointing out that he was not the second person to win those 5 titles since both Angle and Van Dam won all 5 before Jeff. TJ Spyke 23:55, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

page for Peroxwhy?gen

In my opinion, I think the page for Peroxwhy?gen should be created. --Rimara (talk) 09:01, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

We had a page but it lacked notability and was deleted. Darrenhusted (talk) 09:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Triple H picture

I think this picture is a lot better than the current one showing the two working together. It's more colourful and they are coming to the ring together in it. Tony2Times (talk) 15:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Properly cropped, it could really add some color to the article. --Kaizer13 (talk) 16:25, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

history

was his second title rain the shortest in wwe history —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.161.50 (talk) 22:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Second what reign? Technically any title unification are at 0 seconds and there are several of those. TJ Spyke 22:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

He's probably talking about last night's WHC win. Which in the case of the WHC, it would be shortest. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

jeff and beth

should'nt someone add that Jeff and Beth celebrated their 10th anniversery on friday july 3rd. this is per Beths twitter page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cenasmylife (talk • contribs) 08:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Besides the fact that how long they have been dating is not notable, this is not the slightest bit notable (even a 10 year wedding anniversary wouldn't be notable). TJ Spyke 15:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

i just read on twitter on beths page that she made breakfast for her hubby meaning jeff. shouldnt someone add that they are married or at least consider them selves marriedCenasmylife (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

No, because that is OR. There is no source they are married or considering it. TJ Spyke 20:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

I feel the Swanton Bomb and the Poetry In Motion pictures need to be changed; the SB one is blurry and its hard to distuingish Jeff, and the PIM one you can't see whats going on. I propose either new pictures or taking them down until we get new ones. --Scythre^Talk_Contribs 09:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, if you can provide a free image that is better than the ones in the article at the moment, feel free to replace it. Until then, I personally feel that having images that might not be of the best quality are better than having no images at all. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 10:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. I'm looking into getting some images. --Scythre^Talk_Contribs 11:57, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Leaving

So i was at the smackdown taping last night and jeff lost a steel cage, loser leaves wwe stipulation WHC, so we should put that in the article.

sources: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/spoilers-wwe-smackdown-taping-results-for-this-week-83935/3

ps. they always have the right taping results they are a very good source —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 16:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I wish people would read the talkpage to see if something is talked about before making a new discussion. See the section 2 up where this has been discussed already. TJ Spyke 19:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

TLC

Is it worth noting that despite being in the most TLC matchs (Along with Edge)(counting the on at SS) Jeff Hardy has never won a Tables, Ladders, and Chairs match. I think we should wait until CM Punk and Jeff face off at SS though before we add this.142.162.57.195 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC). There had already been a decision on the match, can we please add citations and proper footnoting as what has been done on Summer Slam 2009, for the match results, there had been no citation on the lost of JH to CM Punk. please check summer slam 2009 results Hydranoid15 (talk) 06:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC) i dont have a source other than it cme off my yahoo page, but he has left for a hiatus which is being compared to chris jerichos because he losta leaver leaves town / wwe match and cm punk retains, it will air on smackdown this week. im devastated tbh, i love him, ans aso jeff and beth arent married they just had a spiritual ceremony instead so they are spiritually connected —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.139.79.67 (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Swamp Land

The Double Leg Drop to the opponents groin is referred to by Jeff Hardy as "Swamp Land". During his first year back in the WWE, he would always yell "Swamp Land" before dropping the legs. On Some occasions Jim Ross would repeat it into the headsets if the crowd was to loud and viewers at home weren't able to understand Jeff. This went on from 2006, throughout the middle of 2007 (maybe longer).69.248.229.206 (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Current Girlfriend

Beth Britt and Please remember he has never dated a WWE/F Diva—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockerchic1316 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You need a reliable source to back that up. And I don't see it claimed anywhere in the article that he has dated a Diva. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 20:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

according to his myspace he is not dating Beth anymore and is now dating Kelly Kelly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.44.124 (talk) 22:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Jeff's myspace is www.myspace.com/itchweeed and he never says who he's dating and are you sure hes dating Kelly Kelly? because their are a lot of posers that I have found —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yasmiranda (talk • contribs) 03:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd be pretty sure that he's dating Beth still. Matt's forever mentioning her in his blogs. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 13:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

On Matt's it said he and his wife got their house burnt (he's married) Kalajan (talk) 21:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

He announced on his Facebook that he is going to marry Beth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.3.14 (talk) 22:53, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy is still with Beth Britt. They have been together for almost 10 years. They are NOT getting married because Jeff doesn't believe in marriage. -Susan P.- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.214.39.253 (talk • contribs)

Beth Britt also has twitter at: *Beth's twitter page —Preceding unsigned comment added by HickieHardyxx (talk • contribs) 10:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

If you look on Beth's twitter, it says she does not have a Facebook and neither does he. His only Myspace is Itchweeed which is managed by Beth. Remember, there are POSERS in this world. Tkjgvkyj (talk) 19:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

jeff hardys girl friend

jeff hardys girl friend.well her name is Shannon O'Donnell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.49.31 (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Unless you have a reliable source, it doesn't go in the article. TJ Spyke 04:20, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually his girl friend's name is Beth so not only is it unsourced but its wrong. Cheers, JakeDHS07 05:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

That's a big lie. Jeff Hardy's girlfriend is Beth Britt which he has been dating for ten years. Do you really think that he'd abruptly stop dating her and go for someone who he didn't even know? Get my point? Tkjgvkyj (talk) 19:17, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

World Champion 2008 - 2009

In reality Jeff Hardy is taking a hiatus from wrestling for 2 or three 3 months he will reaturn at either the Bragging Rights pay-per-view in October or the Survivor Series pay-per-view in november. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam63126 (talk • contribs) 08:31, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

That's speculation on your part and, as such, will not be added to the article. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 15:55, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, more like guessing than speculation. Because if one were to speculate how long Jeff Hardy would be away for, they should speculate at least a year and a half. Have you seen some of the bumps this guy has taken? Also, he has two herniated disc in his back which can take a long time to heal. And he has restless leg syndrome, which would take his injuries much more longer to heal than a normal person because it almost feels impossible to get rest with RLS. The whole 3 months, or he'll return early 2010 is a rumor and not at all fact.69.248.229.206 (talk) 17:06, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually I spoke to Jeff Hardy he is my uncle from Beth's side of the family believe me or not but he told me he is not sure if he's returning in October or November but he said in his own words "I am returning" thats why WWE.com did not remove him from the roster. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam63126 (talk • contribs)

Well, you have no source for that. "I spoke to Jeff" is not a source, and cannot be used for the article, so the information won't be added. In addition to that, attempting to predict his return is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. Plans can change, and to claim that he's definetly returning in October/November/whenever is crystal balling, and against policy. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 10:48, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Plus your comment is wrong in and of itself. When did Beth and Hardy get married? How can he be your supposed uncle when you are a relative of Beth and not Jeff? Right there makes you unreliable in your comments.--WillC 11:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Why are you making such a fuss over me Jeff and Beth i called him my uncle because Jeff and Beth are getting married soon and im sorry if you got a problem if you got a problem with that. I spoke to my soon to be uncle are you happy now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam63126 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Because we go by stuff that can actually be verified. We don't accept claims by random people. See WP:V and WP:RS. TJ Spyke 16:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you please put that Jeff Hardy currently works for the WWE because he has not been removed from the smackdown roster on WWE.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam63126 (talk • contribs) 09:27, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Where is your verifiable source? An actual written source from a reliable site that shows that Jeff is still under contract? Jeff signed a three year contract in 2006, and it has been three years so his contract must be out. WWE has to release statements on people they have signed to contracts since they are a public company. And no statement has been released, so clearly his contract must be up.--WillC 17:24, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, they do NOT need to release statements on people they sign. In fact, they usually don't. The only time they are required to is if it's someone being appointed to their Board of Directors. TJ Spyke 17:29, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

They usually release statements through FCW and on their corporate site at times.--WillC 17:34, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I realize that, my point was that they don't have to if they don't want. Take Christian for example. While everyone in the world knew he was coming back to WWE, WWE itself didn't say anything until he came out on ECW. Legally they don't have to report signing a wrestler. TJ Spyke 17:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

You may have a point, but releasing is possible another matter.--WillC 18:05, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I hate you people you wouldn't even know the truth if it hit you in the face jeff is not injured he is taking time off to try get a deal with mtv for his reality tv show you guys are complete idiots and 40 year old virjins with no friends get a life NERDS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bam63126 (talk • contribs) 09:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Read and adhere to WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA the next time you feel like commenting. That being said, we go with what the sources say, and not what you say or claim Jeff has said. His new reality show is covered in the Other media section, with a source. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 11:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeff denies accusations on Twitter

Check out twitter, Jeff is denying TMZ's reporting...Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janice143cena (talk • contribs) 02:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

All he says is that it's exaggerated. It's not just TMZ. More reliable sites (I don't believe TMZ) are reporting it too. TJ Spyke 02:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Since there's no mention of TMZ anywhere in the article, and it's not being used to source his arrest, I fail to see why you are posting this here. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 02:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

His twitter name

jeffhardybrand..... I copied and pasted what he recently wrote on twitter...i'm new to posting on here so forgive me if this isn't useful... " The media is the media, I wish they would at least report the story correctly & accurately. I will make a statement later."about 5 hours ago from web —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janice143cena (talk • contribs) 03:02, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

I believe that he is staying away from the web because his twitter is now missing..Perhaps Twitter deleted the fakers and him on accident..But his myspace, Itchweeed, isn't working either. Tkjgvkyj (talk) 02:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

What does this have to do with the article I don't see any thing here that should be included. Please be more specific on what you want added.--Dcheagle (talk) 05:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeff deleted his twitter because he wanted to, to much attention over his arrest.--96.30.138.44 (talk) 15:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeff leaving the wwe?

Aparently Jeff Hardy's last match for a while is going to be the TLC againist Punk and SumersLAM.142.162.55.13 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:24, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

Wikipedia is not the place for rumors and speculation. TJ Spyke 23:50, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Matt Hardy tweeted that Jeff is staying after Summerslam, but yes we may well be leaving the company soon for three to four months. I know its this isnt a speculation site but I reccommend you look into it 84.69.133.148 (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Look into what? We are all aware of the rumors and speculation out there. The same rumors said he was leaving after The Bash. Wikipedia is not a rumor site. 21:10, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

It's now confirmed after last nights Smackdown. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.136.56 (talk) 11:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

It is confirmed by: http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/253272148.php and http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/spoilers-wwe-smackdown-taping-results-for-this-week-83935 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torgum (talk • contribs) 12:14, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No. He is not "leaving" WWE, he is just taking time off and this is bein used to explain it in the storyline. Also, neither of those are reliable sources. TJ Spyke 15:02, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stFpL9ykudg&eurl=http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/exclusive-video-jeff-hardy-says-goodbye-to-fans-last-night-83981&feature=player_embedded this is a vid of him saying his goodbyes so he is taking a hiatus. if this isn't a good source then what is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.116.57.122 (talk) 01:27, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Notice how your right and nobody comments, just like these guys think they own wikipedia and are so stubbern that they wont add anything unless they thinks it should go on. They contricdict themselfs over and over agin adding things and then telling other that they can't add it but if it was them then they could. I created a wikipedia account some time ago but gave up as all my edits got reversed even thought i had sources and proof and they were ligit. Because they don't add it it don't get added. I added to RVDs page once he was a 2 time world champ but it got reversed and the explernation i got was the ECW title isn't a world title, but now those who removed it have added the very same thing to his and a million other pages and now to there rules a World Championship in wrestling means nothing at all soon rics gonna be overtaken i could declear a title a world title and have squash matchs then drop the title to someone else only to get it back 5 mins later 2 days later i'm 20 time world champ and beat ric flair i get put in the record books and he no longer get's called 16 time world champion but would any wrestling buisness/fan agree of caurse not cuz it's %&*&%^& —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.21.192.131 (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

First and foremost, allow me to clear the air on one issue. TJ Spyke is horrible at explaining things in detail. Whether they be IP's or registered users, established or newcomers, TJ assumes that the editors he communicates with on Wikipedia all have the same mindset and think the same way that he does and understand his points so therefore he uses a style of generalization when he discusses, again assuming that the other side clearly understands him. What I am trying to say is that this is just a plain and simple misunderstanding.

You see, the point that TJ has been trying to get across with you disgruntled IPs is this. Wikipedia has strict policies to which all of its content and editors must adhere to. Due to Wikipedia being a place where anyone can contribute any bit of information, such policies are needed for a variety of reasons. These policies are established to prevent mainly inaccuracies, all with the intention of making Wikipedia a reliable source of information. Now, everyday established editors see numerous edits made to various articles. In regards to Professional Wrestling, due to the complexity of the subject, with the hundreds of so called "Wrestling News Sites", which are considered to be tabloids or dirt-sheets, random editors like you IPs constantly add whatever is being reported on such sites to related articles on Wikipedia. The problem with that is that because such sites are tabloids and dirt-sheets, they are not reliable sources no matter how reputable you as a wrestling fan may consider them to be. In accordance with WP:RS, specially when it involves WP:BLP (A Living Person) as the subject, information that is obtained from unreliable sources cannot be added. Its as plain and simple as that.

Despite your possible opinion on the established users on Wikipedia, we are neither "stupid" nor "stubborn" (though some can be the latter). We are Professional Wrestling fans too and read the dirt-sheets just like you. We've all obviously read on the issue regarding Jeff Hardy's temporary departure from WWE. However, Wikipedia's policies must be followed, regardless of the subject. Again, its just that simple.

Now, 82.21.192.131 I understand where you are coming from. You obviously had a disappointing experience on Wikipedia with a registered account. Let me assure you that again, the reason for that was possibly due to a simple misunderstanding. In regards to your changes regarding the ECW Championship, the consensus has always been that the ECW Championship is a world title, so the editor that possibly reverted must have been unestablished. There are no rules on Wikipedia that dictate what a world title is because Wikipedia is not a place where facts are made but rather where facts are recorded. In regards to what a world title is, well there simply is no standard or rule that decides what a world title is. You'll never find a source that clearly defines what a world title is without it being a person's opinion. Opinion isn't fact, its just opinion and everyone has their own.

Due to the owning professional wrestling promotion of a world title in question being the closest reliable source available, Wikipedia's guidelines suggest that the position of the promotion be recorded. Therefore, if WWE promotes three world titles, then it has three world titles. If TNA promotes, a world title, then it has a world title... and so on and so forth. Now there has been some concern expressed by multiple IP's and newcomers over how foolproof this position is, with some stating that this position practically allows any backyard federation or independent organization to claim to have a world title and thus would allow them to record that info on Wikipedia. Well, thanks to Wikipedia's many policies and guidelines, such as WP:NOTE (Notability) and WP:MADEUP (For Things Made Up One Day), such concerns and problems are prevented and avoided. As you can see, we have all bases covered. : ) Finally, in regards to your edit concerning Ric Flair, it is obvious that Ric Flair has been noted as being a multiple time world champion. However, with the actual number varying from 16 to over 20, the accepted recognized number was noted while also making note of his other multiple reigns that are argued. Its all due to WP:NPOV, which encourages all points of view to be noted instead of just a single biased view.

Well I hope this has cleared up any misunderstandings and that I've addressed all of your concerns. Cheers! ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 16:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Just one correction to your point. Consensus was not ALWAYS that the ECW title was a world title. I believe 82.21.192.131 probably had a registered account years (or at least six months) ago, when consensus was to go with PWI and with no one realizing how many policies we were violating by using their opinion. After we realized the error of our ways, he began adding in what he himself had had reverted by use previously. So it's easy to say why we appear to be hypocritical. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 18:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually there was never a consensus to go with PWI's views. Since 2005, it was simply just there. It was only about a few years ago that concern was first expressed over that, but its been now only some months since something was actually done about forming a consensus. ^{--UnquestionableTruth--} 19:26, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, but I'd call lack of discussion essentially the same thing as consensus in this case. I joined the project about three years ago and recall very little discussion about the topic prior to a few months back. Then again, my memory could be faulty. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I have already seen the smackdown show, it's all true and it's definitely not a storyline due to various reliable news sites. --Newsflash (talk) 21:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Such as? Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The opening/introductory sentence about Jeff on his article page should have the "He is currently signed to World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE), and is currently a performer on the SmackDown! brand", as Friday's match for the World Heavyweight Title was a "Loser Leaves WWE" stipulated Steel Cage Match, with the loser leaving the company stip being added on by SmackDown! General Manager Theodore R. Long. As we all know, Hardy gave the fans a farewell speech shortly after losing to Punk. He may just be taking time off to pursue other interests, but unless and until he comes back to professional wrestling, the bit about WWE should be changed, and maybe change the very first part to "...WAS an American professional wreslter", as I stated before, until and unless he comes back in the future. Just my 2¢. Thank You.98.209.48.133 (talk) 09:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I haven't been on my dirt sites in a while, but to my knowledge he's gone (for now). If it is a hiatus, we do need more information on it. Freebird (talk) 03:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Jeff Hardy is still under contract to WWE, he is currently on a break to heal injuries, just as Undertaker when he was "banished" from Smackdown —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sc07d3g (talk • contribs) 17:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah he's on a break - but is there any truth to him coming back on Friday for the Smackdown 10th Anniversary - there's an article somewhere on WWE.com saying that he has been contacted and invited to appear at the show? Nicolizzio 12:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicolizzio (talk • contribs)