Talk:Jerry Gray (arranger)

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The last sentence states Gray died at 61, but the birth and death dates given in the intro put his age at 60. Emoll 20:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed his age at death to 60. Emoll 20:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK—never mind. Two independent outside sources (The Oxford Companion to Popular Music and Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians) give birth year as 1915, so death age is indeed 61. (I changed the birth year in the article.) Emoll 15:59, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was 61 at his death. There were many different articles that had him dying at different ages (57, 58, 59 etc.) Obviously they could not all be correct. When I went to apply for life insurance I had to put the age of my father at his death. I put 59 just because I read one of the obituaries. But when my insurance company told me my premium would be significantly higher, because he died before age 60, I realized that I had to get his true age. According to my birth certificate he was 61 at the age of death and. Al Gray —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.228.183 (talk) 02:18, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion[edit]

This article as it currently stands seems laced with unattributed opinion. The following paragraph is a case in point:

"Listening to the Gray and Beneke orchestras provides an interesting contrast. [According to whom?] Gray was arguably [Who argues this?] closer in spirit to the Miller legacy but never quite achieved the same level of popularity because he was less of a showman and Decca was no match for RCA's marketing machinery. Beneke benefited from greater name recognition and stage presence but was hampered by restrictions placed on him by the Miller Estate both before and after his split with RCA."

It seems to me some of this could possibly be retained and reshaped, but having never even heard either big band (a more reasonable term for them than orchestra, I should think), I'm not the one to do it. I'm strongly tempted to delete the entire paragraph. This paragraph, however, is merely a particularly flagrant example of the kind of thing that appears throughout the article. TheScotch (talk) 06:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]