Talk:John Dye

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Death unverified[edit]

Sti`ll waiting on a verifiable source regarding his death before updating this article. --DizFreak talk Contributions 00:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.wtva.com/news/local/story/Mississippi-born-actor-dies/VDR8x5zo8kKI2M3Etl-jfg.cspx?rss=2377 Is that acceptable? It mentions the coroner's office being notified of his death. Eseress (talk) 02:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This guy was on prime time television for almost 10 years. If he had actually died it would not be so difficult to find sources.--71.79.2.95 (talk) 03:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another source for his death, http://nems360.com/view/full_story/10968796/article--Angel%E2%80%99-actor-Dye-of-Amory-dies?instance=home_news_bullets — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msumaniac (talk • contribs) 03:22, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Died 2011. [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.180.33.100 (talk) 03:40, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neither of those sources should be reliable enough to cite him as dead. --71.79.2.95 (talk) 04:16, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay guy. I never said my source SHOULD be reliable enough. I merely asked if it was. But thanks. Eseress (talk) 04:19, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.wcbi.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1294780306&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2& "Family members say he died from heart related problems". That should be enough confirmation. Can we edit his article now? Eseress (talk) 05:04, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another citable source including a quote from his father. Think we can call this one official now. http://www.wcbi.com/article.php?subaction=showfull&id=1294780306&archive=&start_from=&ucat=2&

I don't understand what's going on. Why isn't a more credible source noting his passing? According to our links his family has even supposedly confirmed his death, yet nobody is discussing this. I find this incredibly odd. If anything, I think we should at least mention in his article rumors of death. Eseress (talk) 06:24, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WCBI website includes a video interviewing his father in the left scroll bar. http://www.wcbi.com/ I'm not sure what else you'd want. I used to run John's website - that's definitely his father Jim and as horrible as this is for me and those who knew him, he's really gone. This is silly...John's been out of the spotlight for a few years, so Hollywood isn't that interested...doesn't mean it didn't happen. Jim should know - John was his son long before he was the public's actor. Just update it and move on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.195.236 (talk) 09:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Two local news sources plus video interviews with his father are enough to verify his death. Major national news sources may not pick this up for a while. I think this is now just belabouring the issue. freshacconci talktalk 16:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

{{editrequest}} Change the lede sentence to "John Carroll Dye (born January 31, 1963) ..." in accordance with MOS:BIO. decltype (talk) 07:08, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know what the FINAL Autopsy results were??? xxxx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.83.19.22 (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could find no official cause of death after 20 minutes of searching. Anyone else have the official coroner's finding?Wzrd1 (talk) 05:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That information can be obtained with an autopsy record request here: "Copies of records from January 1, 1957 through the present time may be obtained from the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, Hall of Justice, 850 Bryant Street - North Terrace, San Francisco, California 94103, telephone number (415) 553-1694. When requesting records from the San Francisco Public Library or the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner, please provide the full name of the deceased person and if known the date of death and the Medical Examiner's Case Number. Please contact the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to find out the charge for copy work when requesting records. It can take up to a week to recover the records from storage." Emeraldwynn (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External Link[edit]

Would the editors please consider allowing the addition of http://www.payitforwardinmemoryofjohndye.net/ to external links? If they would look, they would see that Mr. Dye's family is involved with the site which features information about his life and impact. Thank you. Seraph724 (talk) 12:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"After life" section[edit]

What's the deal with the "After Life" paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.141.145.66 (talk) 23:50, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that there has been an WP:edit war over the "after life" section. This content has been added and removed six times by a user who has not registered a Wikipedia account.
Perhaps this content belongs or perhaps not, but I fail to see how this content is related to the subject of the article. The person wanting to add this content should explain more here on the talk page. I am going to request temporary page protection in hope that the contributor will create a Wikipedia account and explain themselves here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:22, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The content added by the disruptive IP-hopping editor has nothing to do with the subject of this article. That editor has been trying to insert non-encyclopedic garbage about health care court cases into more than 30 different unrelated articles for several years now. You are welcome to try page protection, which will just temporarily divert him to other pages, then he'll be back. Xenophrenic (talk) 19:41, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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John Dye playing trombone[edit]

Does anyone know where the source about John Dye playing the trombone in his school's band program came from?

MikaelaArsenault (talk) 15:50, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's pretty self evident what he died of[edit]

If you want to know what John Dye died of, look up Chris Burrous. Same death. "Poppers" is what these people use. Meth is inside. Look closely at his pic here. That was the dead giveaway. I mean it coudn't be more obvious than that! Then I saw the city where he died "San Francisco". What exactly do you think he was doing there?! Again, look up Chris Burrous. Not that complicated. Let's just say that Johnny Boy wasn't the little angel he portrayed himself as. He concealed it well in the show, he wasn't concealing it in his candid pix. It leaked. Some reports claim that he was married to an "Elizabeth Updike" except she doesn't exist. Fabricated by him, her last name is a clue. And that should be your last cue to get a clue. You're welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.234.90.216 (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"These people"? Really?
The death certificate does not support your theory. Poppers contain various alkyl nitrites, not methamphetamine. As far as his supposed marriage to Elizabeth Updike, that appears to be a reference to a John Dye who died in 1813.
This is Wikipedia. We deal in citable fact, not rumors. Your unsubstantiated theories are not welcome here, nor is your obvious homophobia.
2601:3CA:204:F860:44C0:46C1:5738:7330 (talk) 05:19, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop removing the death information![edit]

It appears fan(s) of John Dye keep editing the Death section to remove unflattering information about him and his family. But here are the facts: the family did initially report to multiple news organizations that he died of some kind of heart issue (their statements ranged from "heart attack" to "congestive heart failure".) Whether premature speculation on their part or an outright lie to avoid tarnishing his legacy, his death was ultimately determined to be a "drug related" death, specifically from "acute methamphetamine intoxication".

Dye's death certificate has been on Wikimedia Commons for years, and is readily verifiable with the California Department of Public Health—reference state file number 3052011005848. I'm sorry if you can't deal with the thought of John Dye being a drug user, but Wikipedia is not the place to try to sanitize someone's image. 2601:3CA:204:F860:E0FC:C616:379A:72C1 (talk) 08:13, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Does WP:BLPPRIMARY apply to dead individuals? If it does not, I agree that the death certificate on Commons should be cited, and the real cause of death included, if no secondary source on the cause of death can be found (and I can't find one). The article was previously likely referring to this or this, though unsourced in the article. But family aren't medical professionals, and the medical examiner doesn't give a cause of death here – later media then just picked up what the family claimed without fact-checking it. So we either do not list a cause of death, or we list the correct one using the primary source death certificate. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:23, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
WP:BDP basically says that WP:BLPPRIMARY doesn't apply to people who have been dead for more than 2 years. I can see no reason to not use a death certificate as a source of info in this case. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:11, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I second using the death certificate and including his cause of death as drug overdose. We have citeable fact, and there's no point in not using it.98.251.192.45 (talk) 15:21, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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