Talk:Johnny Horton

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~~They forgot to mention that he had a song called "I Hate Niggers" I think Johnny was racist but i still like some of his music...just dont like that song.~~—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.70.93.54 (talk) 00:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

This is incorrect. An artist named CJ Trahern who went by the name Johnny rebel wrote that song. Johnny Horton did not write nor perform any of the racist songs attributed to him.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.70.93.54 (talk) 00:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I made a note of the false attributions in the article. I'm sick of hearing about Johnny Horton's non-existent racist songs. 24.199.113.215 13:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not very well written[edit]

This article needs some cleaning up. It isn't very well written. I'd do it but don't have the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.70.93.54 (talk) 00:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

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Frank Black recorded two songs, "If it Takes All Night" on Dog in the Sand, and then later on Show Me Your Tears, "Everything is New". Both songs reference Johnny Horton. "If it Takes All Night" references his ghost and "Everything is New" talks about Johnny's car crash and death.

Don't know how they'd fit here, but they are interesting.

Citations & References[edit]

See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete "Complete" Singles Listing/Suggestion for new section[edit]

The long "singles" listing is drawn from a Bear Family box that includes Horton's entire recording output for Columbia records, not just singles but album cuts, posthumous mixes and other things. Horton recorded for labels other than Columbia; a shorter listing of hits, with release or chart dates, would be more useful. Also there should be a new section outlaying, in brief, his recording career.Pinikadia (talk) 02:37, 21 January 2010 (UTC)Pinikadia[reply]

I hate [the n word][edit]

http://www.songlyrics.com/horton-johnny/i-hate-niggers-lyrics/ looks like he did sing it. If you google I hate [the n word] it comes right up. 69.119.207.171 (talk) 23:39, 16 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That just means that whoever posted the lyrics there THOUGHT it was Johnny. I've found numerous lyrics on those sites attributed to artists who never did the song, just like you find many files on music sharing sites attributed to the wrong artist. --Khajidha (talk) 14:47, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be expanded on more than one sentence and proper references provided, since this is a common mis-perception of Johnny Horton's career. In fact, there are no references in the entire article. Unreferenced material should be removed until references are provided.173.127.183.191 (talk

The confusion over Johnny Horton, Explained! The artist named CJ Trahern, who recorded and performed under the name Johnny Rebel recorded the *humorist* song "I hate niggers" YEARS after Johnny Horton had died.

The confusion has come about due to a careless disc jockey mixing up the CJ Trahern stage name " Johnny Rebel" and the SONG titled "Johnny Rebel" which was a Johnny Horton hit. The disc jock on a radio station in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma by the name of Stevie Beau, who was a recent hire from the UNiversity of Connecticut wanted to play " I hate Niggers" on his show and INtroduced it as The HIT SONG from Johnny Horton...He meant to say JOHNNY REBEL, but the song title of JOHNNY REBEL made him think of Johnny Horton and he blurned out Horton's name.

The calls flew in once it played and Poor Johnny Horton took it on the chin years after he was dead all because a DJ fresh off the bus mixed up the song title Johnny Rebel and the Performer! Johnny Rebel, had a brain freeze and blurted the wrong name.

This song was never recorded by Johnny Horton, the poor man was dead for years when it came out by CJ Trahern, aka, "Johnny Rebel". So now you know.

Minor correction: Horton's song was Johnny Reb, not Johnny Rebel. --Khajidha (talk) 22:18, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

unlisted single[edit]

What about "Please, Mr. Custer" ? You can listen to this song at grooveshark.com. Check it out! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.161.112.225 (talk) 22:38, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This song was not done by Mr. Horton. I believe it was performed by Larry Verne and it has an article here at Wikipedia, if memory serves.THX1136 (talk) 16:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Custer. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Rumors[edit]

Some racist songs by [[Johnny Rebel (singer)|Johnny Rebel]] have sometimes been incorrectly associated with Horton. Rebel did not begin recording until after Horton's death. The mistake is apparently because Horton recorded the historical song "Johnny Reb".<ref>{{cite web|url=http://musicweird.blogspot.com/2014/12/did-johnny-horton-record-racist-songs.html|title=Did Johnny Horton record racist songs? A history of racist country music|date=December 6, 2014|website=Music Weird|access-date=August 17, 2015|last1=Adams|first1=Greg|archive-date=March 13, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170313050006/http://musicweird.blogspot.com/2014/12/did-johnny-horton-record-racist-songs.html|url-status=dead}} {{dead link|date=September 2022}}</ref>

The above was removed with the comment that "Blogspot is not a reliable source". For what it's worth, the user that removed it is now indefinitely blocked. This talk page contains several instances of people who had heard that Horton had recorded racist songs. I've had people say it to me, as well. A horrible as it is, this confusion is a part of his legacy and we need something here to dispel the falsehoods.

Is this a better source? Americana and the echoes of the past - Sportsmen's Americana Music Foundation (sportsmensamf.org) --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:41, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]