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Ethnicity in lead

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@Citrivescence: While Leikeli47's ethnicity may be important to her music, I disagree that she should be introduced as an "African American rapper". This creates an othering or markedness, in which "American" is normal and "African American" is something else. We don't introduce Dr. Dre, Ice Cube or Lauryn Hill as "African American rappers", nor do we describe Eminem as a "white American rapper" first off the bat, even though him being a white rapper is a notable part of his career. The article on Leikeli47 currently does not discuss why or how being black is "relevant to the artist's notability", and even if it did, a better way to discuss this would be something like "Leikeli47 is an American rapper. She is known for songs which incorporate elements of the New York African American experience..." Since you created this article and probably know more about the artist than me, please expand on how her blackness is part of her notability, while avoiding undue labels where they aren't appropriate. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 19:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Animalparty: I understand other Black celebrities may not have their ethnicity in the lead but I'm not interested in litigating that. I put it in the lead because it is a central part of the thematic content of her music and comes up consistently in her interviews. Citrivescence (talk) 04:32, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I still disagree, but like I said, please expand. Demonstrate in this article beyond simplistic labels. But I think you'll find the vast majority of articles on African Americans—even those whose race is a central component of their identity—from Harriet Tubman to Martin Luther King Jr. to George Washington Carver to Langston Hughes to Jackie Robinson to Malcolm X to Snoop Dogg to Barack Obama, find a way to more deftly disentangle nationality from ethnicity, discussing both without othering. --Animalparty! (talk) 05:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

She is a great rapper 172.56.176.124 (talk) 21:44, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]