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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that 2022 Junior Eurovision winner Lissandro's idol is Elvis Presley?~~
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hometown Village
- Comment: The hook is boring, but I'm running out of time. I will come with a better one. I am going to work on this article seriously tomorrow.

Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 23:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Lissandro; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Just a reminder to submit both a QPQ and new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Moscow Connection: Reping due to a typo. With that said, how do the following hooks sound?

ALT1 ... that 2022 Junior Eurovision winner Lissandro earned the nickname "Elvissandro" due to his love of Elvis Presley?

ALT2 ... that 2022 Junior Eurovision winner Lissandro has done voice-overs for several television series and animation films?

The article is also a bit on the shorter side so if possible I'd like to see it beefed up more. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there's a desire to keep some level of mystery and encourage clicks, we could also have ALT1a ... that 2022 Junior Eurovision winner Lissandro has the nickname "Elvissandro"?, but I'd leave it to the reviewer to decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A QPQ has not been given despite multiple pings and talk page message. The nomination may continue if one is given. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~I donated a qpq.~~ BuySomeApples (talk) 01:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BuySomeApples: Thank you so much! I did another QPQ, so you should use yours for another review, in order to save your time and effort.. :-) --Moscow Connection (talk) 04:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Sorry. I'm back and I promise I won't disappear again. (Btw, I had a very good excuse last year. But this time it is just that I was a bit distressed after an AfD discussion. And I switched to a computer that feels uncomfortable to work on. I've tried to do a QPQ. And I'm trying now.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 23:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will search for more sources tomorrow. I'm sure I can expand the article.
I like ALT1 the most. --Moscow Connection (talk) 04:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review still needed for ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT1 and ALT1b are cited and interesting enough. The article is new enough (at the time of nom) and just barely long enough but there's a couple source problems. The article includes his birth date but this source only seems to include his birth year. Also, the information about "Oh Maman!" being released as a single is sourced to Apple Music, are there any secondary sources we can use? BuySomeApples (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have found a source [1], but I will search for a better one tomorrow. --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find a better source for the complete sentence ("On 28 October 2022, the song was released as a single"), but I have found a source for the song being released as a single by MCA, see my edit: [2]. (The Parisien article is partially behind a paywall, so I added a Google snippet quote.) I hope it is enough, the release date is still sourced from Apple Music. --Moscow Connection (talk) 23:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Moscow Connection: I removed the birth date and left the year, and changed the date of the single's release to the month of release so everything is cited now. I think this one is ready. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The article is very short, at only 1570 bytes of prose, and with lots of possibilities for concision. I am unwilling to promote such a borderline article; other promoters may disagree. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 05:41, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll expand it tomorrow. --Moscow Connection (talk) 03:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After recent copyediting (for concision?), the article is now down to 1250 prose characters, nowhere near enough. Moscow Connection, it's been five days and that expansion you said you'd do remains undone. Please complete the now-required expansion in the next couple of days if you wish to continue pursuing this nomination. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Moscow Connection returns in the next couple of days and makes the necessary changes, this can be reopened. If not, this should be closed as unsuccessful. Z1720 (talk) 02:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29 and Z1720: I'm very sorry, I'm back. It's embarrasing... I have some computer problems. And some real life tasks that need to be done. --Moscow Connection (talk) 08:14, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's roughly 1660 characters now. (Still expandable. I just used the sources I had found on 26 February [3]. But I have to go soon and will return in three hours or so.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 09:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sources

"Lissandro will be joined by four backing dancers... Lola, Yana, Mahdy and Thimeo..."

https://thateurovisionsite.com/2022/12/03/lissandro-france-junior-eurovision-2022-backing-dancers/

"À la composition de ce titre pop/rock, on retrouve Frédéric Château (compositeur pour Patricia Kaas, Florent Pagny et M Pokora entre autres) et Barbara Pravi, la représentante française au concours Eurovision 2021 cosigne pour la 3e fois une chanson du concours Junior après « Bim Bam Toi » en 2019 (arrivée 5e) et « J’imagine » en 2020 (gagnante)"

https://www.enroute-eurovision.fr/video/le-clip-de-oh-maman-de-lissandro-est-disponible/

"... qui va faire swinguer l’Europe avec sa chanson pop-rock" "Quatre danseurs entoureront Lissandro sur la scène du Karen Damirchyan Complex. Alexandra Redde-Amiel et ses équipes artistiques ont imaginé un très belle scénographie que nous découvrirons dans quelques jours à Erevan."

https://eurovision-quotidien.com/eurovision-junior-2022-france-2-prete-a-faire-swinguer-leurope-avec-lissandro/

"Accompagné de quatre danseurs, le fan d’Elvis Presley a fait swinguer un public qui n’a pas ménagé ses acclamations à l’issue de sa prestation."

https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/tv/eurovision-junior-lissandro-offre-la-victoire-a-la-france-11-12-2022-ORKE7JJKXRFORDDJAWRX232NUA.php

"Pour la chanson "Oh Maman", ce sont des sonorités rockabilly qui ont été choisies, "un mélange entre Bruno Mars et Elvis", annonçait le communiqué de France Télévisions, diffuseur du concours."

https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/grace-au-chanteur-lissandro-la-france-remporte-pour-la-deuxieme-fois-l-eurovision-des-enfants-7146056

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https://www.paris-normandie.fr/id368742/article/2022-12-10/eurovision-junior-le-grand-show-des-9-14-ans-de-retour-dimanche-11-decembre

--Moscow Connection (talk) 19:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]