Talk:List of Pirates of the Caribbean characters/Archive 1

Archive 1

Captain Teague redirect

Captain Teague redirects here, but there is no entry for him and his name is only mentioned once. that seems stupid to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.2.134.104 (talk) 18:20, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Splitting

This article is too long; It have 7 section and information about 58 single characters and pairs. This makes it difficult to find read. Therefore, it would make sense to separate the first 4 sections (these about the pirate crews) into independent articles.

Why? For Wikipedia to have more clutter around? It's more useful to leave it as it is. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 01:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Barbossa's first mate

Bo'sun acts as first officer and Kholer simply is a prominant pirate, neither is stated to have their positions by anyone, therefore instinct must be trusted. Kholer isn't the first officer.

According to his nickname, Bo'sun is just the boatswain and therefore, Koehler must be the first mate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.144.103.38 (talk) 14:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

The Black Pearl's first mate is Barbossa. He named himself captain after the mutiny and just never bothered to "promote" the Bo'sun to be his first mate, but he is undoubtedly Barbossa's second-in-command nonetheless. Koehler is never shown as having any kind of authority. It is the Bo'sun who bosses everyone around (inlcuding Koehler) and who is always at Barbossa's side. - Kooshmeister

Barbossa was First Mate when Jack Sparrow was captain of the Black Pearl and therefore he was captain, and then it was said that, by the scriptwriters (in an article I can't seem to find yet), Bo'sun was the First Mate. People just call him Bo'sun because when Jack was captain, he was the boatswain. -Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

Some dude wrote that Bo'sun is not the firstmate.and then he writes that he is the Boatswain.

That is because he is referred to as the Bo'Sun. As I just stated previously, he was boatswain when Jack was Captain, and acted as First Mate when Barbossa was Captain :) I hope that clears this up. - Elizabeth [ BlackPearl14 11:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC) ]

There is no evidence that he is not the firstmate.He is always on Barbossa's side and bosses everyone around.(Jacoby the Blackbeard 10:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC))

Dog with keys

Since this dog has been annoying as it were in the movies, shouldn't he been included somewhere?--User:Drakehellman

Does the dog have a name? The article Pirates of the Caribbean characters states that his name is Poochie, but some sources clames that according to commentary and/or special features on the DVD, he is called Chopper. Do somebody know anything about it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.144.67.39 (talk) 09:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

Hmm, nope, but that is something that would be good to find out if it has an actual name, but also not it's best to have some sort of source behind it before adding in anything, as in, at least state where you get the name from. As for that article, I say, ignore it, as it is propsed for deletion anyway, but as for the DVD aprt, I'm not sure, as I haven't seen the DVD version of the movies. Which one is it anyway? The first or second movie? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 09:40, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I also haven't seen the DVD version, but according to the information I have, it´s Dead Man's Chest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.144.67.39 (talk) 10:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC).

I watched the commentary and neither name was mentioned. The only place I heard the name Poochie was the movie itself, by Pintel, but that just seems like more of a one-off nickname. I'll keep looking, but if anyone finds out what feature names it (if any at all) can you let us know? Thanks. Dac 11:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

There should be homenage to the dog with keys in Monkey Island —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.91.11.167 (talk) 19:48, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Flying Dutchmen crew

There seems to be a lot of adding and removing editing going on with the Flying Dutchmen crew (ie Ratlin, Wheelback).

From sources I've found, the full crew totals 18:

Bootstrap, Clanker, Koleniko, Jimmylegs, Hadras, Maccus, Ogilvey, Palifico, Wyvern, Two Head, Greenbeard, Penrod, Old Haddy, Ratlin, Wheelback, Angler, Quittance, Crash

Sources include IMDB.com and articles/developer interviews at CGsociety.org.

Granted, there's not much info about Ratlin, Wheelback, Angler, Quittance, and Crash, but they should probably at least still be mentioned.

Yeah, one of the guys under IP addresses pointed that one at me, but if we have no verifiable information on these guys, eg their appearance, I don't see much point in keeping them in (I went over those articles at CGsociety.org and found naught on the appearance of the characters.. It's good that we have their names and all, but simply the names isn't enough. People are just gonna wonder who these names belong to. Your thoughts? Dac 07:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha, I'm fine with leaving them out for now. I'm sure more details for the rest will come about eventually. One that's not on the list yet that is shown in quite a few scenes is the one carrying the sawfish sword. That one had barnacle tendrils around one eye which leads him to possibly be 'Crash' according to CGsociety.org. On CGsociety.org, there's a picture of him coming out of the water (all the way on the left) with a few of the others. Too bad there aren't any names listed under the photo. That would be much better for confirmation.

My friends i'm sorry to say that greenbeard is also the bosun he is referred to as such in the novilization of Dead Man's Chest, i'm not sure who you have listed as the Bosun, but Greenbeard is, not him. Technobabble1 17:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Bootstrap Bill specifically calls Jimmylegs the bosun in the film. The film takes precedence over the novel in terms of canocity, so the info presented there is incorrect. Greenbeard is not the bosun - 81.159.16.26 18:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Greenbeard is the navigator of the dutchman.how in the world can you call him the Bo'sun(Jacoby the Blackbeard 11:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC))

Hi. I'm new here. Please CapDac do not delete Ratlin, Old Haddy and Angler, I removed the link because the photo got deleted, I'm begging you, PLEASE DON'T! --Ogilvey1 06:05, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I've seen them so I know they're real. Please don't jump to conclusions, I hate being characterised like that. I'm leaving them as is. Dac 06:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Good, because if you had, I would have deleted Hadras and Maccus because of no citation!--Ogilvey1 08:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't recall seeing any crewman on the Flying Dutchman with a barracuda for an arm, or simply, Angler. Can anyone elaborate? --KnowledgeLord 05:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

How come all of the crewmembers except three are completely gone now? I was going to add pictures for them, but now they've all been taken down! Catcher Block 21:39, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

-Thanks for putting it back up, whom-ever-did-it! I've been adding some pictures of the different characters. If anyone can add better or clearer ones (it's hard to take pictures of Jone's crew because of the many of the scenes are at night), feel free to do so! Catcher Block 06:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

John?

Where is it stated J. Brown's first name is "John"? He's named Mr. Brown in the credits, and his sign reads "J. Brown" - 213.120.158.227 17:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point, I've removed it Dac 12:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

• Ah, found it; The PotC Visual Guide gives his full name - 81.151.184.115 09:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoever keeps on adding in that his name is "John", please refrain from doing so, there are no sitations(sp?) to prove that his name is that and it will be reverted everytime someone tries to add it in without a sitation(sp?) to back up the edit. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 10:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The Pirates of the Caribbean Visual Guide clearly says that his first name is John. And here is your citation: [1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.144.118.63 (talk) 10:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

The add it to the page already Captain Drake Van Hellsing 20:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Cotton

I've noticed someone keeps stating that Cotton is referred to as "Cottony" by Gibbs. That's not correct; he says, "Cotton here says you've missed a bit", not "Cottony says you've missed a bit". Also, when is his parrot referred to as Cotton? I've only heard it called "Cotton's parrot" - 81.159.16.26 18:51, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

He is referring to the parrot as Cotton because, after all, Cotton can't speak, so the bird is essentially his mouth. --KnowledgeLord 05:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

All the new characters

I actually went and had a look at the extra info in their links, yet, there were no pictures at all, and was wondering if anyone actually has pictures of them or not. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 00:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Links aren't always necessarily pictures, just links to sites that have some form of clarification on them. Dac 00:44, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, was just checking really, that's all, it's cool Captain Drake Van Hellsing 05:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Jack's "extra" cremen

Whoever had added these crewmen in, please provide a link to them, as in, like Davy Jones' crew, or they will have to be removed. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 21:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I’ve add the links.

The links verify that the characters exist, so as such we can let them remain in. But a few things need to be cleared up. Firstly, since Jack recruited crewmen from Tortuga in both films, I think that each crewman should be listed as appearing in either the first film or the second film or both. Second, any claims of was "probably was eaten by the cannibals" will be removed. That is outright speculation and that is not what these pages are for. Other than that, thank you for your assistance. Dac 12:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Heh, no worries man Captain Drake Van Hellsing 09:41, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

A Question About Ratlin

Hello,

I added that Ratlin is the second to attack Will, but someone removed it. Now, I found this odd, since this is a much clearer shot of Ratlin than when you see him clinging to the ropes and such when you see the Dutchman submerging.

Sorry if I'm being a bother, but I'm a total Davy Jones/Dutchman/Crew fangirl, so I pay as much attention to them as I can. ^.^

Best, EldoraLuthiena 01:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I removed it because I checked the scene, and although the statement was true, the shot only lasted half a second before Ratlin was joined by others. It was one of those things that can only be picked up if one is looking for it, REALLY hard. There is enough time to see him, quite easily, in those other scenes. So for now I'm taking it out. Dac 02:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah, okey-doke. I think I might have found a picture of him somewhere, but I'll have to check. I was wondering, is it all right if I add in who was part of the Isla Cruces shore party? I've got a list of them written down, and I've triple-checked it.

EldoraLuthiena 02:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The "shore party" as you call them is far too broad a list. There were a large number who set foot on land, most of whom are the crew that are seen elsewhere anyway, so there's little point to it. Dac 02:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I must agree with this, I'm sorry. Most of those who are in the Shore Party are featured in this article anyway :) So I hope that's okay with you. -Elizabeth [ BlackPearl14 11:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC) ]

i have seen ratlin with greenbeard when they toss a guy overboard(the one who refuses to serve on the dutchman) besides you can clearly see he is the second guy to attack will turner.(Jacoby the Blackbeard 12:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC))

I did too, but he is seen for about two seconds in those shots before the view switches to somewhere else. The best shot of Ratlin, I think, is when he is attacking Will, but it is so dark then that it is hard to tell who he is. The clearest shot of him is when the Dutchman goes underwater, but you only can see him when you know what to look for.

Also, I saw him on the Kraken Hammer a few times. JamesNorrington

Yes,Ratlin was at the cracken hammer.He gets whipped by jimmy legs and yells a second before Davey jones says "by we who ready to wake The Kracken."(Koleniko 23:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC))

The Princess

Where is the merchant vessel destroyed by the Pearl at the start of TCotBP identified as Princess? It's never named in the film, nor does the name appear in the Visual Guide - 90.240.7.94 14:24, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no ship known as the Princess nor is it of any importance. -Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

Then why is the ship named in the minor ships section? Also, who got all that information. It is never said in the movie, and it does not appear in the Visual Guide. JamesNorrington

Anamaria

Why does the Anamaria-article refer to this article if there is nothing about her in there

I'm going to restore the Anamaria article via revert. Her being in only one film doesn't make her "non-notable." If someone can add something for her here, I won't argue it, but until then the old article was prefectly usable. - Rebby 20:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Captain Tuege?

I think that's how you spell it, Jack's father who appears in At World's End. Isn't he a pirate lord? I don't see him on the list anywhere. --MajinVegeta 13:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

He isn't a pirate lord. Captain Teague is in charge of taking care of the Pirata Codex, or the Pirate Code book written by the pirates Morgan and Bartholemew at the dawn of the era of piracy so as to avoid fights with other pirates. Teague can only be called upon by a Pirate Lord. Hope that helps. -Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:26, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

That One Eel-headed Guy

Does anyone know what the name of that one Davy Jones Crewmember who had a giant moray eel for a head that appeared in 'At World's End'? I can't seem to find any information on him.

Also, when did Broondjongen appear in the movie? I can't recall seeing him at all. --StantheGarbageMan 7:50, 28 May 2007

He was at a Cannon for 2 Seconds

The eel guy is listed on wikipedia minor pirate characters under "Eel". JamesNorrington 19:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

The cgsociety.com or whatever it's nsitename is calls him morey(Koleniko 23:53, 12 August 2007 (UTC))

Black Pearl crew

Most of the Black Pearl's crew appears to have disappeared from the article... - Kwenn 08:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably because half of them never say or do anything worth mentioning. Although I myself did not remove them, I can see why they would be. I'm also thinking a lot of the Flying Dutchman crew ought to be trimmed down a bit to just the ones listed in the credits and/or who did anything notable in the film(s). - Kooshmeister

I agree. Wheelback, Old Haddy, Ratlin and Greenbeard mostly, did nothing worthwhile in the movie. However, I'm not saying that these articles should be deleted, but they should probably be shortened a bit. JamesNorrington

Pirate Lords

The list of Pirate Lords *must* included here. If not, then the page will be deleted and the information on there destroyed. As they were minor characters to the plot, they must be put up here. --KnowledgeLord 01:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

At least wait and see what happens first. lol I have the page saved on my computer anyway, so if it does get deleted, I'll put it up here, so don't fret. Therequiembellishere 04:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

There is no need for this page to be deleted and/or destroyed by a mere newcomer just because Pirate Lords weren't on the list. The writers just forgot about the Pirate Lords and/or did not know about them, and as this is an editable encyclopedia, you could add it yourself. Don't get, erm, over the top with ideas, please. -Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

Besides, the Pirate Lords have their own list in the Breathern Court link. JamesNorrington

Captain Teague

if anybody can get a pic of him with the shrunken head it would be awsome

It would appear that Captain Teague is immortal. Jack makes a reference to that, "What? You've seen it all, done it all. You've survived. That's the trick, isn't? To survive?"

Small kid with the Harbormaster?

Just wondering, that kid that was with the Harbormaster, would he be an apprentice by any chance? Or just a kid? Captain Drake Van Hellsing 23:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I think he's just a kid the harbormaster hired to be an assistant or something. Back then, grown-ups would frequently hire children on for menial tasks, unlike today. - Kooshmeister

Yeah, true. Cause I was thinking that we should include him in somehow too, as he was part of it. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 03:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Wasn't the boy African? I have a feeling he was a slave. Therequiembellishere 03:38, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if he was or not. But as for slave, it didn't look like it, it just seemed he was helping out really. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 03:42, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, not all slaves were the stereotypical "shipping boy, 70 hours a week in the sun on a plantation" a lot just helped out in return for food, shelter and freedom. Uncle Tom's Cabin isn't the most truthful of books. Therequiembellishere 04:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Uncle Tom was actually pretty truthful, but 1: it only touched on a few types of slave life, mostly bad ones, and 2: it was set durng the American Civil War, 1-2 hundred years after Jack would have met the dude. My point is, I agree Therequiembelli-something in that most slave at this time and area wouldnt have been in a field, they would have helped out. Young ones specially, they were usually used for things like this even up to the time of Uncle Tom. --Count Mall 15:07, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Jack's Father

I cant seem to find any information on Jack Sparrow's father on wikipedia, and i believe he is a minor character, could anyone who knows anything add him in?

Um, Teague is Sparrow's father. Therequiembellishere 20:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

I think Teague is Edward Teague; Blackbeard —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.117.219.69 (talk) 10:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Crash

For Crash's image box, it doesn't even show the picture, it just says, "Crash aboard the dutchman" or something. ?? -Elizabeth(BlackPearl14 03:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC))

• Crash's image has been deleted - might be due to copyright reasons. Davtra 07:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. - Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

:::::I know a place where you could find the concept art for the dutchman crew.

Go to www.keeptothecode.com/gif/conceptartlg/daveyjones_crew1.jpg .the page would say that there is an error and it would give the address for all other concept art.Do check it out.It has drawings of Crash,Old haddy, green beard,twins and a Maccus ith a hat and only halfof his face in the hammerhead form.It also has many drawings of other crewmembers. (Jacoby the Blackbeard 12:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC))

Manray

According to Manray's section, it says he is the sailor who decided to serve Davy Jones in the second film. Is this true? If it is, shouldn't there be a source? Evilgidgit 15:27, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure this is correct. Bootstrap had been serving under Davy Jones for much longer and was less mutated. If the claim is correct, it is a plot hole in the film. Jerkov 14:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I never even saw Manray in World's End. Does anyone know where he appeared? JamesNorrington 19:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

He appears in the Maelstrom scene. And I don't think he is the man who joined the crew in Dead Man's Chest, for the same reasons Jerkov stated. Flamingtorch372 02:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

But He wasn't seen in the 2nd So he Wasn't a part of the crew then meaning he mutated faster than bootstrap anyway it could be a will thing because bootstrap mutated faster when his son died and guys like Urchin jelly and the guy with a realy long name b somthing looked less mutated and so they could have being members of that crew. (Koleniko 23:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)) Just because the never showed him, doesn't mean he wasn't a part of the crew yet. He could have always been below deck or something. Flamingtorch372 18:17, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Pictures

I added a few pics of the crewmembers of the dutchman (Quittance, Oglivey, Palifico, and Greenbeard), just to clear up the slight confusion. I'll try to find Ratlin. Does anyone know what parts he appears in during the second film? I need a picture of his face, or atleast a better pic than when he's hanging from the ropes. User:Cornflake111 4:54, June 4 2007 (UTC)

Try the Kraken Hammer scenes.

User:Whm2] 6:13, June 6 2007

Pirate Lords

I may just be blind, but what happened to the Pirate Lord section? BumblePooh16 19:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

• I don't think there was a Pirate Lords section in this article. The Pirate Lords are listed on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brethren_Court - Davtra 12:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

External links to photos

There are many external links to photographs in: The Flying Dutchman (under Davy Jones) section. I would say one photograph per character is enough. That section needs little a clean up. All agree? - Davtra 12:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, Davtra. It is much too cluttered. -Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

I agree. There is no need to have more than one pic per chatacter. JamesNorrington

Jimmylegs pic

It needs to be replaced with a better one. I can't really make anything out in the current pic. Jerkov 14:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Neither can I. I anyone has a better pic of Jimmylegs, can they please post it? I can't seem to find one. JamesNorrington

would his concept art do like before?(Koleniko 00:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

Liar's Dice

We've said that the winner of a dice match has years shaved off his sentence, but the film doesn't make clear whether the crewmen were playing for more time or less. I can see how the mutating crewmen might've wanted less time on the Dutchman, but the whole point of signing on was to "stave off the judgment," and avoid death. Does anyone have a source for which way the game was being played? Darkfrog24 17:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it was actually stated anywhere. It was just assumed. Flamingtorch372 02:19, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

In the New Visual Guide to PoTC (all 3 movies), it is stated that if a player WINS at liars dice, they will cut short their sentance by however many years they bargained, multiplied by the number of players they eliminated to win. For example, if someone bargained 10 years and they were playing with 3 other players, and they won, they would lose 30 years off their sentance. However, if they lost, they would gain 30 years of debt. It helps to play the game to understand it in the movie. --74.38.30.34 21:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Dutchman Sailor's Deaths?

Now, weren't the sailors also immortal? I mean, Hadras lost his head and still survived in DMC, and Angler was sliced open by will but later healed, so where is the source that says the sailors died, even by falling in the whirlpool (It seems that since they are "part of the ship" they would probably get back on it eventually).--24.22.212.250 02:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

• Most likely since the malestrom leads to the bottom of the ocean, which is technically Davy Jones' Locker, they will just be in there until ferryed to the other world. BumblePooh16 19:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Well, they got sucked into the Maelstrom, and then Will broke the curse, so they would be pretty close to the ocean bottom by the time the curse was broken so then they probably would have died. Flamingtorch372 02:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

• or they could of just teleported back to the duchman

because I saw Clanker after he fell into the Malestorm anyway there weren't lot of guys on it in the first place (26) and if any did die how they fired all the cannons is a wonder

• Davy Jones' crew can only teleport at night (Commentary from Dead Man's Chest), thus they couldn't get back to the ship. However, as the Flying Dutchman can still submerge even after the curse is lifted, it's logical to assume that the aqua-organic nature of the crew and their immortality are separate things. They are monstrous because Davy Jones broke his agreement, but immortal as part of being crewmen on the Flying Dutchman, regardless of if the ship is being used for it's intended purpose. It can therefore be assumed that they remain a member of the crew even at the bottom of the ocean, and thus can be retrieved. By the way, the bottom of the ocean and Davy Jones' Locker are not the same thing, nor do they being a part of the crew have anything to do with being cursed. Finally, it seems logical to assume that the vast majority of the gun crews of the Flying Dutchman are affixed there, as crew do become "part of the ship", and having dedicated gunners would be a great advantage for the Dutchman, allowing more mobile crewmen serve a greater variety of tasks during battle without locking them to a weapon. If Davy Jones is willing to allow a member of his crew to become little more than a lantern holder, than I do not doubt that he'd allow good gun crews to solidify into position. As the cannons are able to fire after the curse is lifted, and as a score of crewmen could never fire all of those cannons and reload in any good time, it stands to reason that those crew which have become part of the ship are freed from the hull when the curse is lifted. 70.48.71.250 19:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Derek "open_sketchbook" Chappell

Clanker pic

I cannot make out anything of the Clanker photo. It needs to be replaced. JamesNorrington 19:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

James, I can't find another Clanker pic, so please search for a picture and post it up. - Elizabeth (BlackPearl14 04:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC))

There was a nice Clanker pic before the new one was placed. Was it deleated because of copyright? JamesNorrington

Four Lame Pirates

Should we add the Four Four Pirates who joined jacks crew in the 2nd Film the Very old man, Irish man, Crippled man and Skinny man thats what They Were Credited as and there seen a lot. The Irish guy and Skinny man talk more times than Lejonh. (who was in te First Flim.) They are seen loading rum into the Cargo Net, Firing Cannons at the Kraken and Skinny man and Irish man Save Jack from being shoot by Norrinton.

It would probably be fine if you could find more information about them. JamesNorrington

Ok I let me Just Wach the Movie Again .... skimed it. Irish man was lefted by his wife who ran off with his dog and he dosn't give a rats ass if he lives or dies. he holds Norrington back as he's trying to shoot Jack saying "Easy Fella" later states they have only 6 barrels of Powder and was very upset to have to load the rum.

Skinny guy wanted to sail the seas forever And Also held off Norrington saying "thats are captain your theating" Later paired wiht Very old man at Cannon has Close up. Shocked at the Idea of loading rum.

Crippled man has one arm and a Bum and was staion at the Crow's nest. may have fallen overboard when the Duchman fired the tripple guns not seen after.

Very old Man still thinks he's young and never sailed before and may have never left Tortuga he fires a Cannon later. Shocked at having to load the rum. has a big stick and a bag tied to his hand.

each of there storys is followed by a remark by gipps who knows what Jack is planing to do which is sale there souls to davy Jones. none would make good saliors. They all killed by the Kraken and are Faithful to Jack saving him instead of tying to kill leave or mutiy like most of Jacks crew. Sorry about the grammer you Could put them all in the same Paragraph of some thing

Torrents

Why is Torrents in this area? There is a special section for Prequel Characters. JamesNorrington

Lejohn

Should we mention he was in the First Film —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.228.49.45 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 13 June 2007

3rd film Crew

I know most were seo Fengs men but at Shipweck Cove there were more

Were they borrowed from other Pirate lords some looked French (Chevalle) some looked Indian (Sumbhjee) and others were old like Captian Teaque's. Or did Tia Dalma Bring Jacks crew's from the 1st and 2nd back to life Cause alot of them looked like the Crew killed be the Kraken or both ideas.

Most likely they reused actors. whm2 5:51 june 20 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whm2 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 20 June 2007

A separate article for ships?

This page has become so long and unweidly, that it seems reasonable that there should a separate page for the ships. It's also confusing having the ships on a page for "minor characters." PNW Raven 20:16, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• Separate page requested, search for 'list of ships in Pirates of the Caribbean.' Moved the ship list into a new article. SilverWerewolf 11:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• Great, but I can't find the PotC ship page. Is there a link? All the ship links in the articles still lead to the minor characters page.PNW Raven 01:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, there is a link to the new page. It's right at the bottom of the page in the Walt Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean box, called "Minor Ships". It's going to be a pain editing all those links. Davtra 05:39, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• I think I've updated all the links. You can double check if you want. Davtra 06:06, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Not all, apparently. I just clicked on the "Dauntless" link on the main "PotC: Curse of the Black Pearl" article and it took me back to Minor Characters. PNW Raven 02:43, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Teague (Jack's Father)

There's this line in his part:

"Teague is able to call the dog over, and when the bewildered Pintel and Ragetti look at him to explain, he simply says "sea turtles, mate," a mildly fourth wall-breaking reference to how Jack Sparrow explained his escape from the island where Barbossa had abandoned him."

How's that explanation fourth-wall breaking? I don't remember he addressed the audience and the Sea turtles could be some inside joke among the Sparrow family. Vicco Lizcano 18:19, 25 June 2007 (UTC) ^{(Hey! Listen!)}

• I was wondering the same thing. Considering how wide Sparrow's legacy seems to have traveled, does the forth wall have to be broken to assume his own father would know his son's favorite explanation for one of his more famous adventures? 70.48.71.250 19:35, 27 June 2007 (UTC) Derek "open_sketchbook" Chappell

Did Grapple and Mallot die?

I know they were knocked in the water in their skeleton form but did the skeletons fall apart? If the skeletons fell apart, then they would've died after the curse was lifted. 218.215.141.31 05:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

• This isn't really the place. Therequiembellishere 05:13, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

• Well, I think it's worth mentioning if they did die. 218.215.141.31 08:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

• But we can't confirm if they died or not. Davtra 06:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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Which Dutchman Crewmember was removed, and why ?

I noticed that there were only 23 crewmembers listed instead of 24, could anyone tell me who was removed, and why ? thanks

==whm2=== 7:34 pm july 4, 2007 Wywerine was not there in the third movie(Jacoby the Blackbeard 11:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC))

Cartographer in DMC

Any idea who played him? Thanos6 01:17, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Murtogg and Mullroy as pirates

If it's thought about for a moment, it's revealed that they joined the crew of the Pearl because they felt that the East India Company's standards were all wrong. That and they wanted to live.

What's on here must be edited, then.

--KnowledgeLord 07:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Links to POTC Wiki??

Somebody put a link to the POTC Wiki under each character, but they all lead back to un-created Wikipedia pages. Anybody want to fix this? I would, but I dont have the time.. Flamingtorch372 01:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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Captain Teague

Using "Captain Teague" in the search box redirects to this article, but the only info/mention is in the bit about the dog. Even the wikilink there is flawed. Where is the info on Captain Teague? Vicco Lizcano 14:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC) ^{(Hey! Listen!)}

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

POTC Wiki Links

Okay, I just removed all the links to the nonexistent pages on the "Pirates of the Caribbean Wiki". Hope this is okay with everyone, GlobeGores (talk | contribs) 03:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This article should not be merged with the Kraken's article

The Kraken is a big part of the piratews of the caribbean trilogy, he has a bigger role then most of the characters on this list combined. And it has a biger role in the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy then the Rancor and the Sarlacc in the Star Wars trilogy combined. --AKR619 (talk) 08:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Title

Possible to change the title to "List of Characters in Pirates of the Caribbean" - that is, capitalize the C in Characters? Or should it be left as is for the time being? BlackPearl14^{Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean} 20:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Only the first word and proper nouns need to be capitalized. TTN (talk) 20:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Mm, but in a title, important words as well. BlackPearl14^{Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean} 21:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

We should merge the minor characters back here.

We have too many uncited minor characters article that have their own article, possibly by being split off here. When it comes to who has their own article, I think we should stick to the characters that are considered primary on this list. Thoughts? − Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I support the mergers all the way. Very few of these characters have met the criteria of Wikipedia:Notability to deserve their own articles. --LoЯd ۞pεth 00:34, 21 January 2011 (UTC)