Talk:Multicultural education

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Bias Complaint

This page seriously stinks. It is nothing but leftist propaganda, with no definition of what multicultural education is.

Agreed. Having experience with the conservative movement, I know that "whiteness" is not regarded as normality. Bias tagged. Falconclaw5000 (talk)

True. Having also had experience as a conservative, I recognize that it's not so much that white is considered "normal," but more that white is considered "neutral"--not based on ideology or cultural context. A recent study here just showed something similar: students perceive minority professors (race, gender, orientation) "politically biased for saying the same things that [straight] white men say (without a presumption of bias)." As Simone de Beauvoir pointed out, when women disagree with men, men reply that women think that way because they are women, whereas the men don't see themselves thinking as they do because they're men; rather, men assume they think as they do because they're "right" (see her introduction to The Second Sex). Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:08, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're all clearly conservative. The article is DEFINITELY neutral enough, just a bit too confusing.

114.91.220.197 (talk) 10:04, 27 August 2013 (UTC)A SOCIALIST (according to the CONSERVATIVES)[reply]

This article does mention one or two criticisms of MC edcucation but these are only one or minor queries from its proponents, who do mention in passing without emphasis that it could lead to a neglect of majority American culture, and thus lower reading and writing abilities of minority, disadvantaged students. This problem is lost in the overlong and rather disorganized exposition. If students from MC background don't master reading and writing, it's hard to see how they benefit. And they can't master reading and writing without mastery of the dominant literary culture. No refereed evidence is cited that the effect of MC education on minority students has been psychologically beneficial. This article does not even mention the most distinguished critic of MC education -- Arthur Schlesinger Jr., a top liberal historian. The "authorities" mentioned are not very reputable authorities. I may come back to this with some insertions when I have time. This would not get a B as a paper in a good undergraduate history course. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5C2:200:FDB0:C04A:C87E:BBDD:E006 (talk) 09:32, 15 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

Well sir, that has been changed. Now there's a definition. And yes, so it's somewhat biased in favor of "Critical Multiculturalism", but I feel that any critical thinker would be. However, I do wish to know what the the phrase "problematize" means. (Frankly, I don't want to be made institutionally wrong and evil for being a white male, and I don't think my Anglo-European heritage should be understood as the enemy, and I'm sure most people would agree.) Whoever has read the source text should take care to expound on the phrase, only because it sounds like a softened ad hominem.

However if there was a quick blurb that said "whiteness ... problematized, that is, understood that WASP culture as a standard for experience is the problem, and not white culture in and of itself," I feel the phrase would be more accurately communicated. The trouble with language, especially in controversial topics, is that it can be quickly taken out of context, or even read differently in-context, depending on the author's understanding vs. the audience's understanding of the phraseology.

And yes. There is a criminalization of conservatism here that isn't encyclopedic, and should be denoted as such when introduced. I didn't read the source text either, and I'm sure most people haven't, and as such, some direct page citations would be nice. I have a sneaking suspicion that the "summary" might be partially reinterpreted to fit the poster's perceptions, and by extension, his/her own biases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.183.62 (talk) 10:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge discussion

I've proposed that the page Multicultural Affairs be merged here, if indeed there is anything to rescue. It reads like an essay lifted from somewhere. It isn't about anything except multicultural education in American higher education. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Multicultural Education

I do not see the basis for the criticism of this page. Multicultural education is a major area of study particularly for future teachers. It should be discussed in Wikipedia. As Banks argues, it is a process of school reform. However, that does not make it a leftist assault. DuaneCampbell1 (talk) 20:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The material that was close to copyrighted was from my book, Choosing Democracy. It has been re-written to avoid any copyright violation. HOw do you remove the template? DuaneCampbell1 (talk) 23:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page is extremely biased. It assumes that everyone agrees that multiculturalism should be promoted in schools and implies a "transformative approach". I.e., it is the duty of the school to encourage students to protest against inequitable conditions due to prejudices. Why is activism a topic to be pursued in schools? Why not stick to what students need to know and let them make up their own minds? Debates in English or History clases on particular policies are one thing; but are teachers then to judge the students on the "rightness" or "wrongness" of ideas? It's one thing for teachers to make home visits to understand the cultural background of their students so they can best accomodate differing needs and views. It's another to encourage students to fight for their rights. Barryg99 (talk) 17:58, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes to this page have MUCH improved it (circa Nov. 2014). Still more work could be done though. I suggest the following:

Sentence level language in general needs editing
History bit in introduction should go in the History section
Ideas in “ME and Politics” subsection not clearly consistent, particularly quote from Levinson middle of the paragraph
Some references need to be redone according to Wikipedia style, e.g. in subsection “James Banks on ME”
Labaree section cut?
First paragraph of “Implementation” section could be broken down into a bulleted list. Examples might be good too.
Fullinwider is critical of the “field-dependent/field-independent” distinction! A better discussion of this is quite possible. Generally the point that all students learn differently needs to be supplemented by the observation that no one learning style is distinctive of all people of a given culture, i.e. even individuals belonging to the same culture learn differently.
Material on multiculturalism on college campuses through Departments of Multicultural Affairs should be reincoroporated, perhaps as a follow-up to or subsection of “Implementation” section. See this version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Multicultural_education&direction=prev&oldid=632492242
At least some items on the bullet list of examples of how ME can be incorporated in classrooms should be reintegrated in the new “implementation” section. See this version: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Multicultural_education&direction=prev&oldid=632492242
Perhaps the old version having Kincheloe and Steinberg’s taxonomy of ME could be reintroduced as a separate entry linked to our new one. See this version here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Multicultural_education&direction=prev&oldid=632491837
The “Critical Pedagogy” box in the all versions strikes me as inappropriately presenting ME as essentially leftist ME. It should be removed or made to represent the diversity of perspectives on ME.Matt Ferkany (talk) 22:12, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Depends too much on the one source?

In the deletion, it became clear that people weren't recognizing how much of the article is a summary of Kincheloe and Steinberg's classification system. I wonder if their book is the only significant source for the article. As we clean it up, we need to balance their definitions and descriptions with other scholars' work. In fact, how much of their classification can we remove or condense in this article to make room for other material? Aristophanes68 (talk) 03:59, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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For the purpose of my course assignment, I will be adding and expanding on the benefits of multicultural education. Im miichelle (talk) 17:07, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Multicultural Education

United States is becoming a pluralistic country with different diverse groups. It is projected that in 2020, there will be about 48% of color students of all school age children in American (National Center for Education Statistics). Due to this, many experts have urged for the inclusion of multicultural education in the school curriculum, since students who learn multicultural education gain knowledge and skills on hoe to deal with race, ethnicity and gender in the diverse society. By Isaac.

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Progressive Critique

I am not a conservative and not knowledgeable about the merits of right-wing objections, but there are some serious academic challenges from progressives and the social sciences against the normative claims of Multicultural education and the empirical base for it actually achieving them.

For example: Stenner, Karen 2005. The Authoritarian Dynamic. New York: Cambridge University Press

Stenner 2005, p. 330, concludes from her studies of authoritarians: “Ultimately, nothing inspires greater tolerance from the intolerant than an abundance of common and unifying beliefs, practices, rituals, institutions and processes. And regrettably, nothing is more certain to provoke increased expression of their latent predispositions than the likes of ‘multicultural education.’ ”

I haven't studied the validity of her empirical findings, but ARE there any empirical findings in support of Multicultural education? If so, they need to be presented and contrasted with the negative findings. Hirsch.im.wald (talk) 11:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]