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The disputed content can't be restored without a discussion here leading to a consensus for doing so (WP:BLPRESTORE). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:47, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Naseem's notability (in the arab world) relies mostly on the fact that he is Yemeni.
Many sources refer to him as being a "British-Yemeni boxer": [2][3][4][5] and many others.
Yemen has issued many postage stamps with him on them, providing more proof that he is notable for being Yemeni. This is one of them.
Not including that he is British-Yemeni is a clear violation of WP:NPOVAbo Yemen✉ 10:30, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
100% agree with what you are saying, Abo Yemen. Many reliable sources also refer to him as British Yemeni, as you have shown. The idea that “He's not known for being Yemeni”, as Mac Dreamstate states, is a categorical lie. I’m in favour of having “British-Yemeni” mentioned in the lead. ActionHeroesAreReal (talk) 13:32, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Not including that he is British-Yemeni is a clear violation of WP:NPOV" – baseless; no violation whatsoever when MOS:ETHNICITY is invoked.
Furthermore, [6] is a content aggregator; completely unreliable. [7] and [8] still do not supplant MOS:ETHNICITY, specifically Nationality examples. He has neither moved to Yemen nor was born there. We don't list Chris Eubank as British-Jamaican or Frank Bruno as British-Dominican for the exact same reason.
The easiest solution is to simply expand upon his Yemeni ancestry in the Early life section just like with all other personalities who are nationals of one country but have ancestry from elsewhere. This is the standard across thousands of articles. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 12:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise we don't list Kal Yafai as British-Yemeni or Amir Khan as British-Pakistani, nor (to use a non-boxing example) Idris Elba as Sierra Leonean–British. This is basic stuff. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 13:06, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A wikipedia policy is a stronger argument than a manual of styles Abo Yemen✉ 14:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
plus, he himself states that he is a british yemeni.. Abo Yemen✉ 14:28, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"how about we revise all of these articles too?" – How about no. I guarantee you'll get absolutely nowhere.
"A wikipedia policy is a stronger argument than a manual of styles" – A manual of style is Wikipedia policy.
Also, per MOS:IDENTITY: "When there is a discrepancy between the term most commonly used by reliable sources for a person or group and the term that person or group uses for themselves, use the term that is most commonly used by recent reliable sources." If this means you're going to start digging up every obscure Arab-centric publication that labels him British-Yemeni, then you'll need to consider WP:WEIGHT as stated above. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chiming in from WP:BLPN: The Variety reverence is not a reliable source for BLPs and must be removed. Admin, please assist. On the other hand, the Instagram WP:BLPSPS regarding nationality/ethnicity can support the British-Yemeni claim. The link should be archived and used as the reference for nationality. It is not self-serving and affirms the subject's own consideration of his nationality/ethnicity. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 22:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, it looks like instagram isn't easily archived. Any better ref than Variety is still preferred. Even other social media actually by the subject. JFHJr (㊟) 23:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
