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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

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Not moved, 3 July 2022, to Dharashiv, see discussion.
Not moved, 3 July 2023, to Dharashiv, see discussion.
Not moved, 21 August 2023, to Dharashiv, see discussion.

City, not district

This article must be about the city, but 95% of the info is in fact about the district (that has its own article separately).--88.19.49.50 (talk) 13:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. We need to segregate the info and divide accordingly. Abhishek Pujari (talk) 05:24, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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Local boy Ranzunjare

@Ranzunjare:, as you said in your edit summary that you are "proud citizen of Osmanabad" thats ok. Then you can also do one more thing proudly, you can click some nice photos of various places in city and can upload it, if you are ready to click nice photos of public places then I can help you to upload those images if you don't know, you just have to talk me here or on my talk page.--Human3015 knock knock • 22:45, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the city Osmanabad has been Officially reverted to its ancient name Dharashiv

According to the current news sourses 1 and 2 and official statement of the government of Maharashtraa name of the city Osmanabad Has been officically Changed to Dharashiv SwaRex1 (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2022

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Maharashtra Government has officially renamed Osmanabad as Dharashiv Loleya7829 (talk) 04:54, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Wikipedia, an article title is a natural-language word or expression that indicates the subject of the article; as such, the article title is usually the name of the person, or of the place, or of whatever else the topic of the article is. However, some topics have multiple names, and some names have multiple topics; this can lead to disagreement about which name should be used for a given article's title. Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it generally prefers the name that is most commonly used, as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources. See WP:COMMONNAME.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The most commonly used name locally was infact Dharashiv. Administratively it was referred to as Osmanabad. The only difference now is that "Most commonly used" name "Dharashiv" has been officially accepted by the government. Hence the change needs to be done right from the title to the end of the article. We can mention the change of name as a sub topic for educational and information purposes. Abhishek Pujari (talk) 05:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very true Smart Sherlock (talk) 13:13, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Anubhavklal (talk) 10:58, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree. The common name situation yet has not come to the fore, and following the precedent established by change from Allahabad to Prayagraj, at least a few years is needed to establish status of the name as common. Saadaman1234 (talk) 07:47, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2022 (2)

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I would like to add Dharashiv District information Website Link in External Sources of this page. PritamSonone143 (talk) 11:42, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need. There is already a link to the district website in the infobox. The link works correctly.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Remove osmanabad

Dharashiv real name 103.234.243.33 (talk) 15:46, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requesting system for it.

ShresthaShome.Ullas (talk) 18:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move Request

Requested move 3 July 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. No prejudice against renominating if sources start using Dharashiv consistently in the future. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 20:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Osmanabad → Dharashiv – The name is officially changed by the government of Maharashtra recently. It is also an ancient name with a relatively secular and peaceful history than the last name. ShresthaShome.Ullas (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The decision was only published on 29 June 2022. It is far too soon to know whether the new name for Osmanabad will be generally used. For the present, most sources use Osmanabad (WP:COMMONNAME). Sources reporting the government decision to rename Osmanabad are not evidence that Dharashiv has become the commonly-used English-language name.-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:52, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Dharashiv is a very old name. Used by locals since always. Osmanabad was just official name. It is changed. And nobody opposed or found anything different. Osmanabad is not a very important city of India. Outsiders won't be impacted due to the name change. Osmanabad itself was not a very common or famous name/city that changing it will hurt anyone. Opposite can happen. If anybody searches for Dharashiv, they may not find it useful.
ShresthaShome.Ullas (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Seems like the legal proceedings in the renaming process isn't even complete yet as per discussion at Talk:Aurangabad#Requested move 29 June 2022, to which this move discussion is tied. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. The existence of a redirect to this article at Dharashiv and the discussion of the proposed renaming that appears in the article should be more than sufficient for now. @ShresthaShome.Ullas: That (return a link to a current article based on searches for what may be an alternative name) is what a redirect does. General Ization ^Talk 18:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Please re-open this discussion. Government of Maharashtra and Government of India has officially accepted Dharashiv and removed Osmanabad from all official and local administration. Abhishek Pujari (talk) 05:31, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COMMONNAME still dictates that Osmanabad remain the title. Just as the title of the article on Vienna is not Wien, the official name it has from the Austrian government. Java Hurricane 06:18, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is still Bangalore, not Bengaluru. —usernamekiran (talk) 06:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Look into articles about, Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata. Those articles were changed accordingly.Abhishek Pujari (talk) 07:37, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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103.123.235.128 (talk) 06:27, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

now the official name of the district is dharashiv

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 06:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Name Change

Change name to Dharashiv as it is official name. 103.251.51.146 (talk) 19:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The ability to read is just as important here as the ability to write. This issue has already been discussed above; see those discussions. General Ization ^Talk 19:38, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 July 2023

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (closed by non-admin page mover) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:26, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Osmanabad → Dharashiv – commonname is Dharashiv since ages Anubhavklal (talk) 11:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: We are particularly talking about the urban area here, not the whole region and the official name change was very recent. Anyway,

News sources: For a time period from when the name was changed (Feb 2023) to present (3 Jul 2023) we get 1,760 hits for "Osmanabad" in quotes and 1,010 for "Dharashiv" in quotes. Note that Dharashiv Caves are well known, so it is possible a good amount of links are referring the cave system instead of the new name of the city, while "Osmanabad" will largely refer to the city itself. If we do a search on "Dharadhiv city" we get only ONE hit, similarly using "Osmanabad city" we get much more 53 hits.
Book sources: There are none in the time period for both the names, with or without "city". Using 20th century as the custom range, we have 74,800 hits for "Osmanabad" while 808 hits for "Dharashiv". Using 21st century as the time frame, we get 12,300 hits for "Osmanabad" while 678 hits for "Dharashiv".

Hence opposing per WP:COMMONNAME WP:NAMECHANGES. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:50, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move per user:Fylindfotberserk Fowler&fowler «Talk» 10:35, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support: Official name, bypass all comments (WP:IAR). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fayninja (talk • contribs) 05:09, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Common name trumps official name per the policy as can be since in Germany and many such high level articles. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:17, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The common name is "Osmanabad". The search results and comments on them as presented by Fylindfotberserk are good evidence for that.-- Toddy1 (talk) 12:22, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 21 August 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works 19:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Osmanabad → Dharashiv – name in common use has always been Dharashiv. It is only official change which happened recently Anubhavklal (talk) 14:33, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Nothing has changed since the previous RM. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2x:

on February 2023 = in February 2023 2603:8000:D300:3650:4C1D:B062:2D04:9F66 (talk) 12:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done once I'd worked out what you were saying - Arjayay (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change Osmanabad to Dharashiv <ref>"Osmanabad is now Dharashiv". 117.245.74.235 (talk) 19:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 20:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattdaviesfsic: There have been back to back RMs few months back. I believe a bit more time is needed for the new one to become the common name in English media/sources worldwide. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:41, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that, yes. I suspect it is probably one of the old faces under this IP, but I don't know enough - nor care enough - to comment really... Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 20:43, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is new face, just clarifying... 117.245.74.235 (talk) 21:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think a decade is enough time, wikipedia updates slower than my wifi 117.245.74.235 (talk) 21:10, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decade? Osmanabad's name was recently changed by the govt. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change the name of place

Sir, osmanabad name is change with Dharashiv in all government offices. So you have change the name of osmanabad to Dharashiv. 2409:4081:D11:9865:0:0:88C8:3F0F (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia usually uses the name that is most commonly used in independent, reliable, English-language sources for places. This is not necessarily the "official" name. (See WP:COMMONNAME.) In the lead paragraph of an article we start off by using the article name, and then introduce other names. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:20, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]