Talk:Pinehurst Race Track
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Hello. The Pinehurst Harness Track is owned and operated by the Village of Pinehurst (local government). I am the Communications Specialist for the Village of Pinehurst. It has come to my attention that the Wiki article for the track (1) has the wrong name for our facility - it is the "Pinehurst Harness Track", not "Pinehurst Race Track". Also, much of the description is lacking and the photo used is TERRIBLE. The Harness Track is a business that relies on renting our stalls and that photo is terrible advertisement for our facility. I can supply much better photos and a complete history of the Pinehurst Harness Track can be found on our website: www.pinehurstharness.org or [1].
If you have any questions, you can reach me mholt@vopnc.org or 910-295-8645.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misslholt (talk • contribs) 13:42, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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Reply 13-JUN-2019
[edit]Hello, and thank you for your request. Since Wikipedia's normal practices discourage editors from reaching out to other editors by telephone, this article talk page has been provided for editors as the best place to communicate on issues concerning the article. The major issues from your request are addressed below:
- The name change: This article concerns the property placed under the National Register of Historic Places in 1992. The original registration document describes the property as the Pinehurst Race Track or Pinehurst Training Track.
- The fact that one facility is named differently from the rest of the property (
"the Wiki article for the track has the wrong name for our facility"
) would not normally change the name of an article if that article concerns the entire breadth of the property, which in this case is shown on this map. - However, a cursory search of Google reveals plenty of references to the Pinehurst Harness Track (we'll call this the Harness Track variant of the name) but curiously, almost no references to Pinehurst Race Track (we'll call this the Race Track variant). Thus, it appears that at some point after the registration occurred in 1992, parts of — or the entire property itself — began being referred to under the Harness Track variant. Complicating what appears to be a widespread acceptance of the Harness Track variant, the property itself is still listed in the National Register of Historic Places under the original Race Track variant.
- In my opinion, I believe that WP:COMMONNAME should be the standard applied here (and to a degree, WP:MPN and WP:WIAN[a]) which might have the article's name being changed to the Harness Track variant. However, without a broader consensus, I am unwilling to make this change outright on my own as COI edit request-reviewer.
- Thus, in order to change the article's name, I believe that the request should be submitted using the
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- The fact that one facility is named differently from the rest of the property (
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Notes
- ^ WP:WIAN suggests that the name be widely accepted by "disinterested, authoritative reference works...if they are current." The current acceptance I see comes mainly from the administrators of the property — who would not be considered disinterested nor a reference work. Outside of reference entries, the historical material I've located does not help in this regard, as it refers to the property as either Pinehurst or the harness track and only minimally disambiguates the greater Pinehurst resort area from facilities specifically nearer to the racing track.[1][2][3][4]
- ^ I am willing to assist the COI editor with the requested move process if need be.
References
- ^ Starn, O. (1 April 2006). "Caddying for the Dalai Lama: Golf, Heritage Tourism, and the Pinehurst Resort". South Atlantic Quarterly. 105 (2): 447–463. doi:10.1215/00382876-105-2-447.
- ^ Anonymous. (2004). "Want Golf and Moore? Check This out". Triangle Business Journal. No. 20.6 S13.
The harness track at Pinehurst has been in operation since 1915. In the past decade, the Sandhills have been used.
- ^ "News of the Outdoor World". Outing Magazine. 57 (6): 766. 1906.
P. Cliamplin, others present at trap shooting tournaments, Pinehurst, N.C.
- ^ "Charity Ball". Town and Country (3431). February 17, 1917.
The Charity Ball for this year has passed into history and the last of the Junior Cotillions--without a cotillion--was danced the same evening. Several various subscription dances have also had their last sessions of fancy dress affairs among the younger set at the Expedition Hall facilities at Pinehurst, N.C.
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