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Stoping Deletion

I had added few sourced contents which can prove that this article must not be deleted and Rajiv Dixit also requires some space of the large domain of wikipedia. I invite others who feel that this artice must be deleted to discusses there reason --Sandeep (talk) 09:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Removing the Tag

As sufficent sourced content had been added and so i am removing the tag, if someone still think that the tag is required please discusses so that we can together build the article.--Sandeep (talk) 11:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

I have looked over the new content and sources. A list of the new sources and my thoughts of them are below:

I gotta go do some stuff in the Real World so I'll have to come back to this probably this afternoon or this evening.

Thanks for you comments and observation.so now i think that there is enough content available to let this article on Wikipedia letter we can back the claims and contents with more reliable sources. so i hope that now you don't have any view of deleting this article

the first and the second link which you had posted can be said that they need more powerful backings rest links are working fine and reliable and authentic sources, i will wait for you comments--Sandeep (talk) 07:16, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Yours.Forever, 1 December 2010

{{tlf|edit semi-protected} Demise of Rajiv Dixit

Rajiv Dixit took his last breath on 30th November, 2010. He was on the Bharat Swabhiman Andolan yatra.

Yours Forever 11:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I have added a mention of his death. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:02, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Help from a Hindi speaking editor wanted

{{help me}} 1. We need help from a Hindi speaking editor to add new info to this article. This is because all the sources added are in Hindi. Please read the discussion above.

2. This article needs to wikified. Please add the relevant template.

3. Do NOT remove this help template if you do not speak Hindi and thus have not made the required changes. SanskritGuy (talk) 09:35, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have reverted changes to the article several times due to a lack of any sources being added for the changes made. Facebook and Youtube are not "quality" sources per the guidelines of WP:BLP or WP:BDP. I would find the statement on his personal website and the notice on his organisation's website sufficient but it is preferred to have a formal newspaper obituary or death notice to avoid challenges about self-published sources. Sources in Hindi are completely okay to use, it is only the quality of the reliable source that matters here. If the Hindi source is being used to confirm death and death date, then the only translation needed would be the title in English when adding the citation as per the guidelines of Non-English sources. If other facts from a Hindi article are being used, then obviously more of the article would need translation to help with verification. Thanks, Fæ (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Note, controversial material (such as claims that he was poisoned) would require quality independent sources that were more than opinion pieces. Fæ (talk) 12:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

The helpme template only calls users to this page who monitor the helpme category. There are maybe 40 users who monitor this category total so it's a complete shot in the dark that any speak Hindi and are also willing to do this task. In fact, it's not unlikely that this helpme request would never be acted upon given your request, but just stay up forever. Helpme requests cannot remain under these circumstances, continuously calling users here. Instead, you should request help at a targeted place. I suggest asking at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

i had added some references whic are reliable and useful if anyone have another opinion about them then please discuss it before removing it thanks i m hindi speaking editor.--Sandeep (talk) 07:46, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit request from Spuntamkar, 1 December 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Death: Rajiv dixit died on 30 Nov 2010 following a cardiac arrest at the age of 43.

Spuntamkar (talk) 05:25, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I searched Google News, and while it lists an article on "Star of Mysore", when I click through, the page is blank. We can never mention that someone has died without very strong, reliable sources. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Source is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmftWSTmWc

In this video Baba Ramdev is announcing that. And the channel is showing Date as 30 November 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jangid (talk • contribs) 09:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Its nowhere on the news, print, online or otherwise. Its clearly a conspiracy but lets not go into that.

Here are the links that meet wikipedia's guidelines. Please note that most of them are in Hindi language.

Dr. Dixit's personal portal - http://www.rajivdixit.com/?p=317

His body's last pic (antim darshan), as officially issued by his organization - http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=93247&id=1532854597

His BST movement's official website -- http://www.bharatswabhimantrust.org/bharatswa/Hindi.aspx

Press note issued by his organization -

Part 1 -- http://www.bharatswabhimantrust.org/bharatswa/images/PressNote1.jpg Part 2 -- http://www.bharatswabhimantrust.org/bharatswa/images/PressNote2.jpg

Swami Ramdev informing people about his sad demise --- http://www.youtube.com/user/AshwiniSoni#p/u/0/BzmftWSTmWc

I am devastated by his demise and I cannot edit this without compromising with the neutrality of this article. Your help is appreciated. SanskritGuy (talk) 09:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

i had added a reliable and neutral source claiming his death --Sandeep (talk) 07:52, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

POV

This page reeks of POV. Though it is important to include Mr Dixit's views, they need to be directly quoted " ". Else, it seems as if Wikipedia endorses some of the right wing conspiracy nuts. I also think that Bharatiyata in the intro needs to be quoted, as there is no readily available definition. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.253.39 (talk) 17:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

really ypu d this article a POV this is a genuine effort to create a good article and if you think its POV then you must come and help to make it neutral and your comment shows that your views are biased against right wing --Sandeep (talk) 06:43, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

bhartiyata is hindi word of indinizaton --Sandeep (talk) 07:00, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

In many ways, using bharatiyata in the present tense can be compared to the way in which Arvind Kejriwal has hijacked the meaning of swaraj, as originally exemplified by people such as Gandhi. Best to avoid it. It had a specific meaning in the Raj period and nowadays is basically an emotive coatrack term. The source says "Indianisation" but goes on to explain the context in which it is used, so I have now reflected that context in the lead. - Sitush (talk) 11:03, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


Help in Writting

Namaskar Friends i invite you all to help me in writing the article of this great man Rajiv Dixit --Sandeep (talk) 10:32, 5 February 2010 (UTC) _______________ Here are some updates about Rajiv Dixit I found it in this link: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gayatri_parivar/message/27300

The fire-brand spokesman of Azadi Bachao Andolan Rajiv Dixit (42), who visited city a couple of times, died at Bhilai, Chattisgarh, midnight last.

According to his friends in Mysore, Dixit collapsed while delivering a lecture in Bhilai at around 6.30 last evening following cardiac arrest and breathed his last around midnight.

He was recently associated with Yoga Guru Baba Ramdev as Secretary of Bharat Swabhiman Trust in Haridwar.

Incidentally, tomorrow was his birthday and his friends were making preparations to celebrate the occasion.

He leaves behind his father, mother and a brother who live in Wardha, Maharashtra.

He was planning to contest the forthcoming Lok Sabha polls.


hey i want to help you on page for rajiv dixit....how can i contact you...plz provide your email id to me "lokinder007@gmail.com" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lokinder007 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Educational Qualifications Claims

Please change: Sri Rajiv Dixit studied from France not from Bihar. I saw this information changing everytime. I wonder who does that!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.255.147.20 (talk) 19:18, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you tell us about an independent reliable source that says which is correct? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:29, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

i had added a neutral source which says its from france please check it and let me know if more reliable reference is needed --Sandeep (talk) 07:18, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

The link [5] posted referring to the site http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rajiv_Dixit2/ refer to a different Rajiv Dixit who is from University of Calgary, which is in Canada. Moreover, these are merely publications and that too tagged under the field of Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, Stem Cell and tissue engineering etc. Whereas in the career section it is mentioned that Mr. Dixit worked as a scientist in the telecommunication sector in France. So the sources provided are not valid. Cleansquad (talk) 19:01, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
More reliable sources are required to confirm that Mr. Rajiv Dixit had obtained a Ph.D from France. Information required:
1 - Name of the Institute.
2 - Details of Doctoral Thesis if available.
3 - Year of completion.

So far there are no sources available which provide/validate the above information. So removing the PhD claim and the mentioned source for now. Please insert a valid source once available. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleansquad (talk • contribs) 07:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

The claims for Mr. Dixit's MTech degree and his work as a scientist are not substantiated yet. The two obvious questions would be: 

1 - Where did he pursue his MTech?
2 - Where did he work as a scientist?

Cleansquad (talk) 04:38, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Reason for Revert

Hi Sitush, you recently reverted my edits citing WP:BLP. But the person mentioned here is not alive anymore. Can you please clarify? Thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 17:08, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Just because some now-dead person made allegations about other people who are still alive does not mean that we should repeat them. If they have the potential to be detrimental to the living people and are not otherwise supported then we should treat them for what they quite probably are, ie: the ravings of a nutter. The world is full of people making daft allegations to gain publicity, to gain an edge in some ideological battle etc but that doesn't mean we repeat them. If the claims had any apparent basis in fact, and were supported by other people, then the situation might be different. The violation of WP:BLP is thus with regard to the living whom Dixit commented upon, not Dixit himself. - Sitush (talk) 17:14, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
That qualifies for Amitabh Bachan, what about Jawaharlal Nehru. Latter doesn't fall in the perview of WP:BLP, does he? -- Pankaj Jain [[User:Cap

ankajsmilyo|Capankajsmilyo]] (talk · contribs · count) 17:19, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Look, find some other people who said the same thing or stop this nonsense. We don't repeat the comments of every weirdo. - Sitush (talk) 17:42, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
See I am not commenting on the sanctity of the fact. Nor am I editing any page related to the subject of the statements. I am editing the page of Rajiv Dixit and adding what he claimed. I have supplemented the text with WP:RS and its notable enough to add. Further violation of WP:BLP does not apply on this statement (as per my understanding). So please stick to the subject and avoid words like nonsense and wierdo. If you keep this conversation in respectable tone that would be appreciated. Thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 17:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
You have repeatedly failed to understand how Wikipedia is supposed to work. Forgive me if I lose patience. We are not a collection of trivial accusations made by barely notable people, so either provide some evidence here that Dixit's opinion is reasonably common or forget it. - Sitush (talk) 18:04, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Some examples: was his opinion widely discussed? was it accepted or condemned? what other opinions are held about the issue (WP:NPOV)? Just throwing a random statement into the article as you did absolutely smacks of someone wanting to stir things up - probably that was not your intention but we have a lot of problems relating to Nehru without stoking the fires. - Sitush (talk) 18:17, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Using low grade sources for hagiographic promotion of fringe lunacy

NB: COPIED FROM TALKPAGE OF MISTER SITUSH, please add to it

Please read [1] and see the fantastic lies Wikipedia is spreading in India about such people. Yours in disgust, etc. etc. Sigmabaroda (talk) 12:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

  • I quickly checked this article. And in my quick check, nothing seem to be very much serious at this moment. The M. Tech degree they are talking, that's also is cited. --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:29, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Do we have any other reliable source for his educational qualifications ?Sigmabaroda (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
  • The article has always been poor and I've sometimes wondered whether the chap is even a notable crank. But using a personal blog entry to counter the sources doesn't really work very well. Especially when we are in the realms of conspiracy theories. - Sitush (talk) 12:36, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
The source cited was authored by Dixit's senior BM Kumaraswamy, National Convenor - Swadeshi Jagran Manch, in a hasty obituary. The personal blog was linked above only because it quickly encapsulates the arguments. Anyway, carry on with your lies. I suppose my next logical question will be where Dixit did his B.Tech from, his M.Tech and so on.Sigmabaroda (talk) 12:46, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
read carefully before you submit your next post here: on Wikipedia we rely on WP:5 and WP:RS. All 3ontent added to Wikipedia should be verifiable. Personal attacks will lead you nowhere. --Tito Dutta (talk) 12:50, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Do you realise how many Indians are walking around with fake degrees? There is a massive industry in such things over there and I'm afraid that the only way this could be satisfactorily resolved is if the awarding institution issued a statement one way or the other. And we would have to do the same for just about every article on an Indian person who allegedly has a degree. - Sitush (talk) 12:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
I can't make out who your last comment is addressed to, or even the point it makes. I am, however, categorically saying the statement reinserted that Rajiv Dixit is an M.Tech appears to be a "lie". Such an exceptional claim needs excellent sources considering the blogpost I linked to from the website of an author who himself holds a Ph.D in Economics from USA, and which blogpost derides Wikipedia (among others) for publishing this particular lie. Sigmabaroda (talk) 13:01, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Please see WP:VNT. - Sitush (talk) 13:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
Please seeWP:RSBREAKING and WP:BDP. Sigmabaroda (talk) 13:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

I can't be arsed with this. I did ask that it be discussed at the article talk page but now I am completely fed up, just after I thought I might for once get a decent day's effort in here. I really do not give a crap about such a minor figure as Dixit and I don't understand why he attracts such ridiculous passions (both for and against). The man is dead and his notability is pretty borderline from what I can see. I'm out of here - you've successfully put me off editing for the rest of today at least. - Sitush (talk) 13:15, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Should I copy this to talk page of Rajiv Dixit so we can resume tomorrow ? Sigmabaroda (talk) 13:27, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
You may. You'll need to make clear that it has been copied. - Sitush (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
  1. The obituary of Rajiv Dixit by his "boss" in Swadeshi Jagran Manch ie.BM Kumaraswamy cannot be used for exceptional claims like M.Tech degree. Independent sources are needed.
  2. The (now deadlink) source 'No English please, we're at Swadeshi Mela, say PSUs' cannot be used,because it only has a passing reference to Rajiv Dixit =>Close by, a Japanese-made Sony sound system played the speech of Swadeshi stalwart Rajiv Dixit, blasting multinationals..
  3. The source 'Decentralise taxes, says Azadi Bachao Andolan supporter' cannot be used because it is anonymous local reportage of Dixit's non-notable fringe lunacy in a backwater part of India (Dharwad), and not picked up at national level.
  4. The source '"Regular Activities | Arise, Awake!!". Vsmpantnagar.org "Vivekananda Mandal" is not reliable and is an RSS front organisation, so directly connected with Dixit.
  5. The (now deadlink) source "Bharat Swabhiman will contest 2014 Parliamentary polls: Dixit | iGoa" is CRYSTAL gazing which never actually happened. Again, the source is anonymous local news reportage, and not picked up at national level.Sigmabaroda (talk) 04:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Another curious fact I came across. Its claimed that Dixit was part of Ramdev's Bharat Swabhiman Andolan, but the blogger "Sanjeev Sabhlok" who questioned genuineness of Dixit's degrees is also very close to Ramdev and BSA, to the extent of being arrested for rioting along with Ramdev [2], [3]. Sigmabaroda (talk) 05:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2016

Sk234 (talk) 16:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC) 

Rajiv Dixit was murdered not died due to cardic arrest, he was given a sharp poison as after his death his body turned blue-black also his hair also started falling after death and liquid was coming from his nose, which clearly indicates he was given a radioactive poison.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Dat GuyTalkContribs 16:40, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes ,he was murdered .The person who has himself cured lakhs of people suffering from heart attack , cardiac arrest, Diabetes,BP etc.How can such a person die with cardiact arrest. BK knowing (talk) 09:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Revert to last stable version

After trying to cleanup recent changes, I've reverted back to 15:06, 28 October 2017, which has been basically unchanged for over a year (I didn't try to find the last major edit, but it's prior to the last page protection of 27 July 2016). The recent changes appear to be more of the same problems that we've had with this article, mostly just copying from past versions of the article or material derived from old versions of this article. It's difficult to tell exactly.

@Sitush:, you've done a great deal of work here. Do you have any suggestions or comments? --Ronz (talk) 18:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

The article is plagued with hero-worshippers and conspiracy theorists, neither of whom have much regard for or knowledge of our policies. I suspect some socks also but that is just a gut feeling. Anyway, if it isn't in a reliable source, it doesn't go in the article. - Sitush (talk) 20:25, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks.
Basically no changes since 09:20, 24 March 2016‎, almost 250 edits in that period. I think some sort of protection is in order, pending or semi. I don't recall ever making a pending changes request, and don't know how to go about it. --Ronz (talk) 21:02, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
PC requests are done at WP:RFPP, just as with protection requests. Twinkle makes it easy. I'm not well enough to follow through with this at present but, yes, the article appears to be an enduring problem and, I think, has been semi-protected in the past. - Sitush (talk) 21:38, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I've requested semi-protection. --Ronz (talk) 23:38, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, it would appear that who ever looked at the request didn't agree that the repeated disruption here merits action. I really don't understand that - pinging @NeilN, SpacemanSpiff, and RegentsPark: for their opinion because this slow-burn stuff is not that slow. - Sitush (talk) 08:44, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Three month semi to start. --NeilN talk to me 14:12, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

About page

To little information is available. 

BAKUL KUMAR (talk) 11:08, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 November 2018

164.100.96.234 (talk) 07:52, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

cHANGE Allahabad to Prayagraj in the Birth Place

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 08:05, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 February 2019

103.216.213.193 (talk) 07:15, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Rajiv Dixit's education qualification was PhD

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 07:30, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2019

Rajiv Dixt was not a fraud, you need to cross check authenticity of your sources on this topic. 182.73.193.218 (talk) 06:01, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: Your original research is immaterial. ∯WBGconverse 07:02, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2019

Change "Rajiv Dixit (1967—2010) was an Indian social activist and conspiracy theorist, who has been documented to be a fraud" to "Rajiv Dixit (1967—2010) was Nationalist an Indian social activist. Gauravkrb (talk) 14:59, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

 Partly done. I removed "who has been documented to be a fraud". Any instances of fraud by the article subject can be described more neutrally, but simply calling someone a "fraud" is out-of-bounds. People can commit fraud, but simply saying someone "is a fraud" is inappropriate. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:19, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
That's what I thought, but I wasn't sure, so I didn't remove it. Assblastusa (talk) 19:21, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Remove your error

Rajiv bhai dixit is not consiprisy theorist He is a minded and brilliant person

And who is lanlantop. He have no athourity to say anything to rajiv dixit XxxKamal (talk) 05:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

no :) it stays unless there is a credible source that states otherwise. Assblastusa (talk) 05:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2019

==Publications==

Dixit wrote several books:[1]

  • Swadeshi Chikitsa (in 4 volumes)
  • Gau Gauvansh Par Aadharit Swadeshi Krishi
  • Gau Mata Panchgavya Chikitsa Anilsingh.2chd (talk) 01:01, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Rajiv Dixit Books, Ringaal
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Happy Holidays! ᗙ DBigXrayᗙ 17:27, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Original Research

Rajiv Dixit was a conspiracy theorist and his claimed academic credentials were found to be fraudulent, and he has been documented to have generated fake news. Seems WP:OR to me. Any comments? ML 911 21:01, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

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Isn't he a Doctor? CAN Anyone please confirm?

Isn't he a Doctor? CAN Anyone please confirm?666himself (talk) 13:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

No, he was not a doctor. In fact he rejected allopathic medicine. Malaiya (talk) 06:51, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Education

There is nothing to support the claims of him finishing B.Tech or M.Tech or for him working for a scientific organization. The official website clearly states that he did not complete higher education.Malaiya (talk) 06:56, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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