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Mackintosh, Eliza; Mezzofiore, Gianluca; Polglase, Katie; Goodwin, Allegra; Brown, Benjamin; Rebane, Teele; Oliver, Mark; Pettersson, Henrik; Manley, Byron (October 14, 2023). "How a rave celebrating life turned into a frenzied massacre". CNN. Retrieved October 14, 2023.

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Stephen Harrison (October 26, 2023). "Wikipedia Is Covering the War in Israel and Gaza Better Than X". Slate. Retrieved October 31, 2023. For instance, the article about the Supernova Music Festival, where Hamas attacked and killed 260 Israeli civilians, states that the attack was conducted by Hamas "militants" rather than "terrorists," a decision that Wikipedia editors reached based on the site's guidance against contentious labels.

On 8 October 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Supernova music festival massacre. The result of the discussion was not moved.

On 6 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Nova music festival massacre. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Apache Helicopters and Hellfire Missiles

No mention of these being used at any time - not even as a "debunked" accusation. There's a shock.Ianbrettcooper (talk) 21:51, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if there was something more than “The investigation didn’t comment” on it. I’d like to see some sort of overview of that controversy. 2600:6C50:427F:CAFE:4437:7C7E:D180:F6FB (talk) 22:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have notable media figures (https://x.com/ryangrim/status/1802786111724360124) commenting that Israel knew about the attack and did nothing (they actually reduced festival security). Censorship over corporate media is tight in America, but that should not be allowed to affect this site. We need a Hanibal section, because the comfortable view - there are things too evil for any human to do - is just flat wrong. Potato 888 (talk) 02:26, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From my understanding, wasn't the Apache Helicopter video of Israelis supposedly killing their own civilians debunked as misinformation? 66.75.251.16 (talk) 03:21, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 June 2024

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Change: "As part of the attack, 364 civilians were killed and many more wounded "

to: " In total the attackers killed 1,139 people: 695 Israeli civilians (including 38 children), 71 foreign nationals, and 373 members of the security forces. About 250 Israeli civilians and soldiers were taken as hostages to the Gaza Strip, including 30 children "

origin source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel 87.70.45.220 (talk) 12:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia is not a reliable source Lightoil (talk) 22:21, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguity in the video

Why don't most of the dead have bullet marks on their bodies in the video?
Why can't blood be seen on the ground near the dead (the human body has 5 liters of blood)?
Why did most of the dead die facing the ground? مصطفی کوهستانی (talk) 21:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. The entering wound from a bullet in a human body is a very small thing. The exit wound (IF the bullet went out) is bigger and can be seen easily. If you are looking for a gunshot wound as seen in the movies, it doesn't look like that at all.

2. Most of them laying on the ground which is sandy, and can absorb a lot of blood. Plus it mostly depends which organs and blood pipes the bullet hit. Again, it's not like in the movies. Gunshot wound doesn't drain all the blood from the human body like opening a tap.

3. Tried to run in the opposite direction\Gave up and let the terrorists capture them and then Executed on site\Just fell that way. Remember most of them were probably moving before they got shot, that last motion they did before they got shot effected how they fell on the ground. 2A00:A041:E193:5D00:D4F3:4D5A:E924:D600 (talk) 19:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove Israeli Defence Forces from perpetrators section. Cherub1 (talk) 22:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Why it should be removed? Charliehdb (talk) 07:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to use a site that collates replies from multiple sources across the spectrum, rather than link multiple sites in one go.

https://checkyourfact.com/2023/11/08/fact-check-israel-civilians-oct-7/ Cherub1 (talk) 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 18:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already done This was removed a week ago, please check the page before reopening an old request. Jamedeus (talk) 02:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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To avoid WP:SANDWICH, please move picture with caption "Montage of photos of all the killed Nova festival participants" from section Re'im music festival massacre#Aftermath to section Re'im music festival massacre#Hostages taken from the music festival (also there won't be a need for picture to be on the left side). Thanks.--Steven Homan (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]