Talk:Rebeca Andrade

Also the first South American gym or all-around medalist?

Heard an NBC pundit make a passing mention of it. 161.185.160.74 (talk) 21:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Rebeca Andrade/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Sportsfan77777 (talk · contribs) 08:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

I'll review. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 08:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

A general issue is that while you may do a good job of listing out all of her accomplishments year to year, there should be summaries in each subsection (probably at the beginning, or maybe at the end) that synthesize the results in that subsection. Without that, it is not so clear how good or bad each year was, or potentially what was the significance of the events that aren't the Olympics or Worlds, or which event she is focusing on or did the best in (if any). Along those lines, it may also be worth combining more pairs or sets of years together, as the summaries may be better suited to cover multiple years.

Beyond the summaries, a lesser similar issue is that the flow is also not always the best. It seems like most subsections are commonly strung together as "She competed at Competition 1. She won [insert color] medal in Event A and finished #th in Event B. She then entered Competition 2, and won [insert color] medal in Event B and finished #th in Event C". Improving the flow a bit might go hand-in-hand with adding the summaries.

I don't have any gymnastics examples of what I mean by summaries, but here are some tennis examples:

• With Simona Halep (which I wrote):

• "Halep played almost exclusively WTA Tour events in 2011."
• "Halep maintained a steady ranking throughout 2012, rising no higher than No. 37, falling no lower than No. 63, and finishing the year at No. 47 for the second consecutive year."
• "Halep had a slow start to the year, only winning multiple matches at a tournament once before May."
• "Halep greatly improved her Grand Slam results in 2014. "
• "Halep had a strong start to 2015, reaching at least the quarterfinals in her first six events."

• With Milos Raonic (which someone else wrote):

• "After turning professional in September 2008 until the end of 2010, Raonic played both singles and doubles, primarily at ITF Futures and ATP Challenger tournaments."
• "The first two months of 2011 represented a significant breakthrough for Raonic, as he rose from No. 156 at the beginning of January to No. 37 by the end of February."
• "His only significant result in the latter half of 2011 after returning from injury was a semifinal appearance at the Stockholm Open, where he lost to Gaël Monfils."
• "Raonic began 2012 with titles in two of his first three tournaments, starting with his second ATP title at the Chennai Open in India."
• "In all four 2013 Grand Slam tournaments, Raonic matched his previous best result."
• "He was one of just three players to reach the quarterfinals or better at seven of the nine ATP 1000 tournaments.[129] Raonic finished with a career-high total of 1107 aces in 2014. At the time, this was the fifth highest single-year ace total in history."

I'll review the article section-by-section after the summaries are addressed. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 09:11, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

• Hi Sportsfan77777, thank you for starting this review. I am out of town right now but will respond to these initial comments by 23 December. Best, Riley1012 (talk) 01:23, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

• Sure, no rush! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 03:46, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

• Sportsfan77777, sorry for the delay. I have added some summaries and tried to improve the flow. I appreciate your feedback thus far and look forward to the rest of the review. -Riley1012 (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Lead

• It is more typical to keep accomplishments out of the first sentence (i.e. just end it after "Brazilian artistic gymnast" and put the rest in the next sentence or later)

Y

• Per WP:CITELEAD, take out the references from the lead and move them to the body if they aren't there already. The first one is fine, though.

Y

• Is it worth extending to two paragraphs? I thought you did a good job with the multi-paragraph lead for Larisa Iordache.

Y I decided to go ahead and add a second paragraph. Riley1012 (talk) 19:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Early life

• She is one of eight children of a single mother, and her mother cleaned houses and walked to work in order to pay for Rebeca's training. <<<=== Split in two sentences (or group the first part of the sentence with the previous sentence) to avoid parallelism issues.

Y

• Is it possible to expand this section?

I've added some additional information that I found. Riley1012 (talk) 19:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

2012

• Okay.

2013

• If Nadia Comăneci Invitational goes to Nadia Comăneci, then the "Individual" part shouldn't be in the link.

Y

• , and she won the silver medal <<< in this type of sentence, you don't need to repeat "she won" if the first clause also has "she won". This comes up a number of times later.

Y

2014

• Start a new sentence at "she won the gold in the all-around..."

Y

• she won the gold on vault <<<=== "repeat issue" again

Y

• she was replaced ===>>> was replaced (same "repeat issue")

Y

2015

• she placed seventh <<<=== use semicolon instead

Y

2016

• she won the silver medal on the floor exercise behind Thais Fidelis <<<=== use semicolon or start a new sentence

Y

2017

• but she did not qualify for the event final <<<=== "repeat issue"

Y

2018–19

• but in 2019 she tore her ACL for the third time ===>>> but only was able to compete for a little less than a year before tearing her ACL for the third time

Y

2020

• COVID-19 pandemic in Azerbaijan. ===>>> pandemic in Azerbaijan. (pipe the link)

Y

• COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil ===>>> pandemic in Brazil

Y

2021

• I don't think the subsection headers are necessary since none of the other sections use them.

Y

• she helped her club win <<<=== start a new sentence

Y

• and she became the first Brazilian gymnast ===>>> becoming the first Brazilian gymnast

Y

• on this event ===>>> in this event

Y

• In 2021, she was awarded the Brazil Olympic Prize ===>>> She was also awarded the Brazil Olympic Prize

Y

Personal

• Okay.

Competitive

• Okay.

Overall

• I pointed out minor things above.
• Besides those things, I think the prose could still be a little better, but maybe for a GA it's fine.

Placing on hold. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 17:28, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• Sportsfan77777, I've reviewed your suggestions and edited the article to implement them. Let me know what you think. Thank you, Riley1012 (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Looks better now, especially the lead! Passing, good work! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:01, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate your help. -Riley1012 (talk) 15:40, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 01:03, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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[[File:|140px|Andrade at the 2020 Summer Olympics with her silver medal from the all-around final ]]

Andrade at the 2020 Summer Olympics with her silver medal from the all-around final

• ... that Rebeca Andrade (pictured) is the first Brazilian female gymnast to win a medal at the Olympic Games? Source: The New York Times, NBC Olympics
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2021 Dublin Bay South by-election

Improved to Good Article status by Riley1012 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC).

• Article was promoted to GA status on January 15, it is new enough and long enough. The hook is cited and interesting, is within 200 characters, and is used in the article. I am concerned however about possible plagiarism. I suspect this is an instance of reverse copying (the site looks pretty sketchy to me), but I'd like the nominator to confirm this is the case, as Who Wrote That tells me the text in the article was added on January 8. See [1]. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:11, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

To me the website looks exactly like this version of the article from July, the lead and the personal life section are the same in this version as it is on the website. I suspect the website created this page in July/August when the Olympics were happening and just copied the Wikipedia article as it was at the time. I've since expanded the article for the GA process. -Riley1012 (talk) 22:36, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

That seems logical to me. Nomination approved. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

– Well, there it is. @Riley1012 and @Trainsandotherthings: The image—[[:]]—has been nominated for deletion since August 1, 2021, with one outstanding "delete" !vote. In any case, we cannot use the images until that discussion is closed. Can we look into this? – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:37, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kavyansh.Singh I can remove the image from the DYK nom. Or I could switch it to this one. -Riley1012 (talk) 21:45, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Upto you, though I think that if she won first medal in 2020 Olympics (actually 2021!), then an image of 2016 wouldn't help much. Rest, I don't see any issue with this nomination going to the main page without the image. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 21:52, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kavyansh.Singh That makes sense to me. -Riley1012 (talk) 01:49, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

To T:DYK/P2 without image (for now)