Talk:Regent Bakery and Cafe/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 21:01, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let's eat! TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 21:01, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	The overall prose flows smoothly. I spotted no typos, and the grammar looks fine.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead section adequately summarizes the article. Per MOS:LAYOUT, the article is correctly organized. Fiction and list incorporation policies are irrelevant for this article.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	There is a reference section in the article, and it is correctly formatted.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	Game Informer and PC Gamer are reliable sources per WP:VG/S. Eater is part of Vox Media. I presume The Seattle Times is reliable because it has editors. Reliable sources cite quotes and any material that is likely to be challenged.
	2c. it contains no original research.	Spotchecking proves that there is text-source integrity and therefore no original claims have been made.
	2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.	Nothing too bad.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	The article contains information about what Regent's interior and exterior looks like, its menu, history, and how well it was received by critics. This article addresses the main aspects of the topic. However, I would like an explanation of how this bakery connects to Portal.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	The article stays on topic.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	The article is written from a neutral point of view. It does not try to promote the business, and it quotes any strong words.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	Checking the article's history, I spot no edit wars at the time of this review.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	The logo's fair use rationale is valid. The rest of the images are Another Believer's own work, meaning that the images can be shared and remixed as long as they are attributed.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	The logo, exterior, and interior photos satisfy criterion 6B. They all show what the restaurant looks like.
	7. Overall assessment.	"Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out."

Quickfail?

Nothing too bad. The article looks complete, it's well referenced, and it reads nicely.
- Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Earwig doesn't spot any violations. However, I think it's practical to shortened quotes whenever possible, especially in reception sections.
I don't see any cleanup banners or citation needed tags.
- Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The article is stable.
- Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There have been no prior good article reviews.
- Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Very minor nitpicks

~~I'd recommend using the mdy template; the references' dates look cleaner that way.~~ Adding it in myself.

Lead

Extended content

You could link "bakeries" to List of Chinese bakery products ("Chinese bakeries" redirects there).
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:31, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
and later expanded - cut "later"; redundant as I see it
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
to Seattle's Capitol Hill - the Capitol Hill you linked to is in Washington, D.C. Do you mean Capitol Hill, Seattle?
- Good catch! Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Regent initially sold cakes and gained popularity amongst Microsoft employees. - You might want to explain that Microsoft's headquarters are in Redmond, Washington.
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Regent has garnered a positive reception, especially for its cakes and pastries. - cut "especially"
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:33, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~I read "The cake is a lie", and if I'm not mistaken, it mentions that Kim Swift, one of the lead designers for Portal, was inspired by a Black forest cake from that bakery. You could add that in.~~

Description

Link "bakeries" as stated in the section above
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:31, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Eater Seattle has called the original cafe a "quaint, unassuming shop" near Washington State Route 520. - You could move the quote to the reception section.
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Rephrase sentence to The business initially operated in a strip mall in Redmond near Washington State Route 520.[reply]
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong Capitol Hill link
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:35, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Allecia Vermillion of Seattle Metropolitan described the interior as "bright and rather sterile". - This could be deleted or moved to the reception section. I mean... all restaurants are legally required to be clean to some degree.
- Clean, sure. But not all restaurants are bright, or feel sterile. In my opinion, this description helps paint a picture of the restaurant. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Shoot, you're right. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 00:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
OK, cool ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean by "glowing bottles" or "a drink that changes colors". Judging by the interior image, I'm guessing you're referring to the glowing blue circle and the blue bottles near it.
- The source says, "Behind the glowing bottles on the bar, an abstract image of an icy drink changes color too." Do you have a specific text suggestion here? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can't think of another way. Sentence is fine as it is. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 00:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Like ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended content

General Tso's chicken with broccoli, pan-fried dumplings - My mind keeps thinking that these are the same dish. Is there any way to separate them?
- Better? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:39, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 23:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:52, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You could link onion and edible mushroom to onions and mushrooms
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:36, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
cocktail buns, ham and cheese buns, and pineapple buns -> cocktail, ham and cheese, and pineapple buns
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You could link latticework, although it wouldn't be relevant in my opinion
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why is oatmeal cookies linked to oatmeal and not oatmeal raisin cookie?
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

History

focused on -> "They initially baked cakes"
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:53, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
~~When was the Bellevue location opened?~~
- Thanks for striking. I was going to say, not sure! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

~~You could mention that Valve's headquarters were previously near Regent.~~
~~You could create a separate section titled "In popular culture". After all, Portal is a legendary video game. It significantly contributed to a popular internet meme.~~
Also, link Internet meme.
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:44, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"has steadily grown a following over 20 years as a strong dim sum place" -> has become reputable
- Did some rewording here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:06, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"The ambiance here is a bit snazzier than many of its dim sum counterparts, and the food is on point. Known more for its delicious pastries, Regent's fried salt and pepper calamari and garlic green beans are as good as you'll find in the city." -> rephrase to "...Leonardo David Raymundo and Ryan Lee praised the Capitol Hill location for its ambiance and pasteries, and called Regent's calamari and green beans 'as good as you'll find in the city.'
- Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer using the full name for Bellevue-Redmond (remove "Bel-Red")
- I had just included this as an "alt" name, but Done ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:44, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't "best" go before "five"?
- I think "five best" reads better. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:44, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecking

I'll randomly select five references from the article.
Y #1
- Y quaint, unassuming shop
- Y Regent was established in 2000.
- Y as good as you'll find in the city
Y #9
- Y egg tarts
Y #11
- Y green-tea cheesecake, oatmeal cookies, (on page 153)
Y #18
- Y The Seattle Times said the baked goods "are the real deal".
Y #20
- Y In Eater Seattle's 2020 overview of recommended eateries for squid and octopus take-out, Gabe Guarente said the Redmond location "has steadily grown a following over 20 years as a strong dim sum place" and wrote that the fried salt and pepper calamari "may be among the best in the city".

@TrademarkedTWOrantula: A couple times you've offered suggestions re: the cake (is a lie) / Portal / Swift. I asked for feedback about this on the article's talk page and over at WikiProject Video games. Based on feedback provided by User:PresN and User:SnowFire, I am reluctant to add any more detail to this article. I admit, I had expected video game editors would want to add more information, but I don't feel strongly about this and want to follow editor consensus. I would invite those editors to weigh in, or, if you want to strike your comments based on their feedback, it'd be helpful for me to know if I need to do anything further. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 23:50, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TrademarkedTWOrantula: Thanks for striking. I think I've resolved your concerns. Only thing outstanding is the "glowing bottles" bit, if you have a specific suggestion or request. Thanks again for reviewing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, passing this article... TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 00:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.