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Requested move 23 April 2017

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The result of the move request was: There is consensus that this Robert Irwin is not the primary topic and should not be moved to the proposed title. Various other possible moves were suggested but no consensus developed for any of them in particular. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:43, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


– Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Most google search results are about this Robert Irwin, and the pageviews analysis shows that Robert C. Irwin's wikipedia page is viewed far more often than those of all the other Robert Irwins. (Note that I chose a pageviews graph from mid-March to mid-April 2017, to avoid the popularity spikes of Robert C. Irwin before and after this date). Also, the subject of the second-most-popular article, Bob Irwin, is normally known as "Bob", not "Robert", so not many people would search for "Robert Irwin" if looking for his article. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 15:15, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The article's existence is valid for the reasons you state, but I don't believe that it eclipses the other Robert Irwins. I feel that it's too soon after the article's creation, and that the television appearances in the US are too recent (not to mention the recent editing and merging disputes which have surely contributed to the page views!), to gauge what this article's long-term popularity will be. In terms of long-term importance, either Bob Irwin or Robert Irwin (artist) are certainly more important topics, as both individuals are established and have gained worldwide recognition for their work. Additionally, although Bob Irwin is never referred to as Robert, with such similar names used in the same context it makes sense to include him on the disambiguation page, it's an easy mistake to make. Wasechun tashunka (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Wasechun tashunka. I would support, however, the move of Robert C. Irwin to Robert Irwin (photographer), Robert Irwin (nature photographer) or Robert Irwin (wildlife photographer). The only mentions I have seen that refer to him as "Robert C." were based on Wikipedia's main title header. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 17:14, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
He's not known as a photographer though, and the last two suggestions you provided are way too WP:PRECISE; we aren't trying to disambiguate between multiple photographers. If we need a disambiguator, Robert Irwin (conservationist) would probably be the most encompassing. -- Tavix (talk) 19:42, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The lead sentence describes him as a "television personality, conservationist, and photographer". If "(conservationist)" is a better fit as a qualifier, then I would certainly support the use of that form. If potential !voters come to prefer "(television personality)" then, by all means, such a description should also be acceptable. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 22:16, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say leave it alone. If you want to move it, "Robert C. Irwin (son of Steve Irwin)" would possibly be the most Recognizable title and gets to the core of his notability. "Robert C. Irwin (television personality)" would be the next choice I guess. Herostratus (talk) 07:40, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 2 May 2017

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The result of the move request was: page moved to Robert Irwin (television personality). (non-admin closure) GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:26, 20 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Robert C. Irwin → ? – There was no consensus in the previous RM to move this Robert Irwin to the primary topic. However, there's still an unresolved question to answer as I think we've come to an agreement that he's never known as "Robert C. Irwin", so the current title is not a good one. I'd like to take a survey of what name people would most prefer so we can get this last question answered. I think the only ones with a likelihood of passing are Robert Irwin (son of Steve Irwin), Robert Irwin (television personality), and Robert Irwin (conservationist) (which would be my ranking in that order). Thoughts? -- Tavix (talk) 14:28, 2 May 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. -- Tavix (talk) 20:53, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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Scouts Australia Investment

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Someone should mention that Robert was invested by Scouts Australia on April 5th, 2017. I would do it myself, but I'm terrible at Wikipedia citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyrekecorrea (talkcontribs) 03:15, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Need for a new photo

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In his many television appearances, he look much older and we need an updated photo of him. The picture is from 2011 when he was just 8. Now he is a 14 year old young man and looks much different. See for example when he appeared in the Jimmy Fallon shows on occasions [1], [2], [3], [4]. Any suggestions? werldwayd (talk) 07:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I second this. His photo is far outdated and needs to be reflective of his current age (now 16). 165.73.116.158 (talk) 20:34, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A third supporter here, he is now 17 and even just going on google images shows a bunch of up-to-date images that would fit great in the article, can someone please fix this? --CybJubal (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A fourth supporter. It is 2022 and he is now 18 years old. This is really long overdue. I see so many recent photos that would be perfect for the infobox. There is no reason to still have such an outdated photo of him at 7/8 years old. Ft109 (talk) 21:12, 25 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes we need a recent image but there's nothing free of him around. --Denniss (talk) 00:33, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone have any ideas on how to find a new picture? Ft109 (talk) 20:10, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion

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The girlfriend thing…

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Please keep an eye out for people editing his page to say that he has a girlfriend. No one in his family/at the Australia Zoo/etc. has confirmed it. Also, it’s no one’s business and it’s irrelevant. He’s literally 16, people. This isn’t the place to spread gossip about a teenager’s dating life. Unless it was to be publicly confirmed by him or someone close to him, it doesn’t belong on his page. Bencutiostan (talk) 23:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Even if they confirmed a gilrfriend it's still irrelevant. Unless they get married or similar happenings. --Denniss (talk) 08:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Very good point. Seeing as he’s a kid, that probably won’t happen anytime soon. Bencutiostan (talk) 23:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New infobox picture?

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I think we should have a new infoboz picture for Robert. The current one is 10 years old and does not reflect his current appearance. --InPursuitOfAMorePerfectUnion (talk) 12:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If one just can find one suitable for wiki ... --Denniss (talk)

We desperately need to find a new picture... Does anyone have any suggestions? Ft109 (talk) 03:36, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Picture

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Robert is now 18 year old and we still have a picture of him at 7... We really need to find a new picture soon. Ft109 (talk) 20:09, 30 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found a YouTube video of him from this year that is freely licensed and I took some screengrabs and uploaded them to Commons here. I just replaced the infobox photo with one. ––FormalDude (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]