Talk:Rosenblum Cup

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Representation of country or team or both?[edit]

The Rosenblum is an Open Team competition where teams can be composed of multi-nationals. Is it correct to say that a Team represents a country even if members are from different countries? ...and even if all are from the same country? See the WBF website for how they describe the teams - they only refer to the Team names in the summary and only refer to a nationality in the details of the Team members (i.e. where each team member is from). Accordingly, I believe that the country representation in the table in the main article is incorrect and should be removed. Comments? Newwhist (talk) 14:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't support (and I am generally open to removing) the identification of one nationality where every member of a team happens to share that nationality.
I don't approve (but won't fight wikipeditor convention —fond convention, in bad English) identification of nationality by flagicons for multiple nationalities of team members.
I think we don't know enough to move forward, even where my parenthetical reservation (just above) does not pertain. Why not?
  • Some team, pair, or individual entries in open-transnational events may represent bridge nations, ie national federations, in that they have earned the right to compete, expenses paid. That may have been the case for some USA open teams in Rosenblum history. I'm sure it's the case for some USA junior teams and pairs, maybe also individuals, in transnational Youth world championships.
  • Some teams that both we and WBF present as national may officially represent zones rather than nations. The zone may select its representatives by competition among national teams, or may otherwise select single-nationality teams or pairs. The most prestigious example must be the Bermuda Bowl. Which "United States" teams were ACBL representatives that happened to include six Americans, no Canadians or Mexicans? Which "Great Britain" &c teams were EBL representatives that happened to be uninational? Why does WBF name the 1954 team "France"?
  • WBF says re the transnational World Youth Congress that medal ceremonies will raise national flags and play national anthems for single-nationality (uninational?) winners. [now unavailable [1]]
This isn't off the top of my head. I've thought about the issue, sharing your concern or perspective?, and I've started to deal with it re the youth events (where prose is rough and rambling, expected to improve this week).
Composing new tables I have strictly followed the fond convention.
--P64 (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WBF policies re Nationality for the transnational 2nd World Youth Bridge Congress (the website is now avaialable so i may complete the point)
  • Information Format: All competitions are transnational. However, national anthems will be played and national flags will be hoisted for medal-winning teams or pairs consisting solely of players of the same nationality. Rules & Regulations: All players, captains and coaches are required to wear T-shirts, polo shirts, shirts or blouses carrying their Federation’s logo. If sweaters, cardigans and sweatshirts are used they too must carry the Federation’s logo.
  • On scoreboards WBF uses its own logo for transnational teams and national flags for uninational teams: scoreboard, final round, 2011 Youth Congress teams (the table is incorrectly titled)
--P64 (talk) 21:09, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Table style[edit]

This comment is duplicated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Contract bridge#Championships

I like the new-style table that User:Newwhist introduced here last fall: Year YYYY and Venue in one left-hand column whose cells span all the medalists, with a different background color too. When I added references for the annual results, I extended that approach by adding the number of entries to the left column. Then I rewrote the McConnell Cup table to match.

What do you think, Newwhist? How did you select the background color bgcolor="#F5F5DC"? Does anyone else have an opinion about the table style? --P64 (talk) 19:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. I think I just copied the background color for the first column from another article but cannot remember where. BTW, thanks for all the good editing on championship articles you have been doing lately - great stuff. Newwhist (talk) 13:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I'll use it too in the Junior Pairs and Junior Teams articles to distinguish the "world championships" that are not part of the venerable series named in the article titles. Roughly as the 2nd World Youth Congress concludes (Tuesday), I hope to finish major improvement in our coverage of the youth program by those two articles. --P64 (talk) 19:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rosenblum Prize for Performance Art[edit]

The Rosenblum Prize for Performance Art awarded annually by the Municipality of Tel Aviv-Jaffa doesn't yet have a Wikipedia page, so is mentioned here for reference purposes. -- Deborahjay (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]