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Sources[edit]

I'm still trying to learn all the ropes here, but [Online World of Wrestling] is a frequent source of wrestling information on Wikipedia, so much so that one of the tasks of the Pro-Wrestling Project here as Wiki is to make sure that all references to their old name and site (Obsessed With Wrestling) is changed over to their new name.

When I was reading up on what is a valid source for Wikipedia is said that what would be considered a valid source for one subject may not be considered a valid source for another subject. The history of professional wrestling is not largely sourced in newspapers and books as other subjects are; generally the best source of info on the history of wrestling is referring to articles written by wrestling websites that write well prepared articles on wrestling. Technically, all pro-wrestling websites are "fan sites" as no one other than a fan would be interested in them. Calling all pro-wrestling "fan sites" in the context that "One Night in Hackney" has is like calling ESPN a "sports fan site," and I'm sure he wouldn't do that. Now, if info was coming from a "mark site" then that would be a different story.

So, specifically to "One Night in Hackney," what do you see as the best source of wrestling information if "fan sights" are not reliable?Theophilus75 01:37, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I should have made myself clearer. Although OWW is useful as a source, I don't consider it useful for establishing notability. It stands to reason they will try and have as many biographies (although some fall well short of what a reasonable person would call a biography - example) as possible, so simply having an OWW profile page shouldn't really be seen as an indicator of notability. Also if you look here you'll see that for current independent wrestlers it absolutely isn't an indicator of notability, as they can pay to get a profile page and send in the information themselves thus making it potentially unreliable as well. I'm well aware that Shag Thomas will probably be a tricky one to establish notability for, so I'm no plans to attempt to delete the article at any point. What you also need to remember is that as a tag is on the article, it appears in a category listing all the articles needing sources for a particular month. Editors do work from those categories to improve sourcing, so it's actually beneficial for articles to be tagged, especially ones that may require searching newspaper archives etc. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Segregation[edit]

Thomas began wrestling during a time when segregation in professional wrestling was still taking place in some territories and promotions throughout the United States. He gained prominence while wrestling in the NWA Pacific Northwest Territory for promoter Don Owen. Owen did not segregate his wrestlers...

See Jim Crow laws. Oregon was pretty far removed from what would normally be considered a Jim Crow state (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that). Therefore, I fail to see how this is relevant other than to drive home the point that segregation was prevalent in the business back then. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 04:08, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]