Talk:Slash (musician)/Archive 2
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Instruments, genre?
I've heard Slash a few times during interviews saying that he doesn't like to sing, even when he is alone. I doubt "backing vocals" should actually be there. I do find it weird, though, that he sang leads on a song in The Spaghetti Incident?. I'm not sure, just saying we need confirmation.
As for the genre, I believe 'Sleaze Rock' should be up there, as Sleaze is practically glam metal mixed with other genres, notably blues and punk, and GnR is a perfect example of that (Slash's blues influences and Duff's punk influences justify this, let alone the fact that Izzy is also influenced by MANY genres such as reggae). -Wolfinator-x —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfinator-x (talk • contribs) 03:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- Sleaze rock just redirects to Glam metal and I dont think that represents Slash at all, im assuming that the genres are more related to Slash and the type of music he contributes than the genres of the bands hes been in (besides Sleaze/Glam is included on the Guns N' Roses page). Also as you said, Slash has blues influences and this is represented already with Blues-rock.HrZ (talk) 03:37, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Place of Birth
Saul Hudson, or Slash, was born fucking awesome in Stoke-on-Trent, Stratfordshire, England, according to numerous interviews and online biographies, and, most importantly, as stated clearly in his recently published autobiography Slash. laxmiteatparty 03:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Slash was born in stoke on trent, read the autobiography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.59.120.100 (talk) 12:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
My research has Saul Hudson's place of birth as Hampstead, London. The main article states the County of Hampshire, England. Similar in spelling (ish), but two completely different locations. Can anyone throw more light on this one ? Thanks.
Derek R Bullamore 23:33, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
He was born in Stoke-On-Trent —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slasher9931 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
I heard him say in an interview on channel 4's 'The Word' about 10 years ago that he was born in Stoke on Trent.
According to Slash's autobiography, "Slash with Anthony Bozza", The opening sentance reads "I was born on July 23, 1965, in Stoke-on-Trent". Despite this, the place of birth has been changed to say Hemel Hempsted in London, using a fan site as evidence to back this up. As this article has now been protected, the true facts need to be reported, not somebodies ill informed opinion
His IMDb profile also says he was born in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England. No mention of Hampstead or Hampshire. --Danish Ranger 19:12, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I admit its not a good source but "accepted fact" is that he was born in Hamstead (I believe this is what his mother said once) but lived in Stoke-on-Trent until he moved to LA and the confusing comes from the fact that Slash simply says he was born in Stoke to avoid explaining the situation in full. Danikat 23:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Slash had 500+ pages to explain this in depth in his book, but chose to say he was born in Stoke. Why would he say that if he was born in Hamstead?
- Is there some way a clarification of this could be made in the main article about him? I ask this because the entry on Stoke-on-Trent has bouts of anonymous people adding his name to the list of famous people born in Stoke-on-Trent, and people, like me, keep on removing his name as it is not consistent with the wikipedia entry. My solution at the moment is to place a note about him in a "References in Popular Culture" section there. DDS talk 13:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
He was born in Hampstead in London, he has mentioned in quite a few articles and he moved to Stoke on Trent when he was about 4. the birth/death/ marriage registers for July 1965 clearly indicate he was born in Hampstead...(as i was...) Care to site or link to those birth/death/marriage registers? laxmiteatparty 21:19, 14 April 2008
86.139.42.54 20:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)carrie
- I have Slash's AUTOBIOGRAPHY and the first line states, 'I was born July 23, 1965, in Stoke-on-Trent, England...' Slash has written himself he wasn't born in Hampstead, but in Stoke on Trent. I think an autobiography is the most reliable source for these sort of things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.247.189.29 (talk) 19:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Slash's autobiography does have some errors, though (most autobiographies do) and this is one of them. There's a list of them on a GN'R fansite: [1] Funeral 19:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
The Guns N' Roses fansite is hardly a reliable source of information, particularly as Slash, himself, has not been a member of that band for several years and has stated in interviews, and in his autobiography, that he was, in fact, born in Stoke-on-Trent, Stratfordshire, England. laxmiteatparty 21:27, 14 April 2008
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I have the 2008 edition of Slash's autobiography..
"I was born on July 23, 1965, in Hampstead and raised in Stoke-on-Trent, the town where Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead was born twenty years before me. It was the year rock and roll as we know it became greater than the sum of its parts........"
It clearly says in his autobiography, that he was born in Hampstead, and raised in Stoke-on-Trent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Halomasterb (talk • contribs) 19:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC) Stop trying to cling onto him being born in Stoke.. He was not.. Now change the damn wiki page.. I made this account to correct this http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5476/slashproof.png http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/8668/slashproofclose.png
Please change Stoke-on-Trent to Hampstead, London. -Ahs1989 24th Nov 2009
- Declined: Please establish clear consensus before requesting edits. Intelligentsium 03:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Slash was born in Hampstead and not Stoke-on-Trent! For proof of this, hear it from the man himself in a recent interview with MSN video (forgive MSN's advertisement before the interview): http://music.uk.msn.com/interviews/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=153189559
Please change the wiki as this is categorical proof and should stop the senseless bickering!
--Nibzilla (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2010 (UTC)Nibzilla
He has just said on live TV, he was born in "Hampstead, London, England". It was on the episode of Live from Studio Five which aired today (28th May 2010), So I'd listen to the references that have already been provided, Books published quite often have print errors.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 18:11, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Biography - first guitar and formation of first band
I would like to propose the following pages. A new publication by Marc Canter (a Childhood firend of slash's at Fairfax highschool) titled Guns and Roses - Reckless Road 2007, has documented the rise of guns and roses and slash's career. This publication highlights a number of errors i have noticed in the current wikiarticle on Slash.
The first is that his first guitar was given to him by Steven Adler's (of Guns N' Roses) grandmother and not his own when they used to hang out together after school. It pays no mention to the story about trying to get into a girls pants so maybe leave it in as its a good story!
The second being that the first band he formed was roadcrew. This is incorrect as the first band he formed was with fairfax highschool friends Ron Schneider (Bass) and Adam Greenberg (Drums) and they were called Tidus Sloan (later changing name to roadcrew). Steven Adler did not team up with roadcrew until a few years after the start of tidus sloan.
All this information can be referenced and has been endorsed by Slash and all the members of Guns N' Roses in; Guns N' Roses: Reckless Road, published late 2007 and written by Marc Canter.
I hope this helps someone who can make the necessary changes.
Rob 04/01/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.123.196.29 (talk) 12:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Trivia section
This section has been tagged since June 07, it's completely unneeded, and it's mostly full of original research. What is sourced is useless, too: So what if he wants to meet Robbie Williams? That's not relevant to an encyclopaedia. Perhaps his charity bracelet should be included but - per WP:TRIVIA - it should be integrated into the article body. This has been tagged as trivia for long enough; it's worthless and needs to go. Funeral 17:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- To view and improve on the information follow this link: [2]. I am unable to put it back thanks to 3RR, but such a change is supposed to be discussed before it is implemented, not after. Ferdia O'Brien (T)/(C) 17:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- That section has been tagged for six months - it's mostly original research, and what is sourced is useless. If someone had added this entire section yesterday, I would have bought it to the talk page first, however, this was tagged as trivia in June last year, so I don't see any need for it. Funeral 17:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- In that situation, the actual removal wasn't what bothered me, it was the lack of even a notice, now that that exists, and people can still find the information, I'm happy. Even placing the notice 10 seconds before deletion follows the protocol, but when you deleted it you obviously had no intention of placing a notice and your first edit summer wasn't exactly informative. Ferdia O'Brien (T)/(C) 17:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- That section has been tagged for six months - it's mostly original research, and what is sourced is useless. If someone had added this entire section yesterday, I would have bought it to the talk page first, however, this was tagged as trivia in June last year, so I don't see any need for it. Funeral 17:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
In general, it's usually people whom are unaware of WP:OR and/or WP:TRIVIA that would advocate or contribute to a trivia section. I remove irrelevant trivia on sight and I agree with its removal on this article too. ScarianCall me Pat 18:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Slah is the man —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.255.174 (talk) 09:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Slash's Mother
In this Article it says that Slash's mother is Nigerian. This is wrong she's African-American. In Uncut Magazine, Issue 129, February 2008 Slash was asked "What's the most often repeated lie you've heard about yourself?", to which he replied, "People keep asking if my mother is Nigerian. I think that one's on Wikipedia. She's not, she's African-American." —Preceding unsigned comment added by ScoutHarley (talk • contribs) 11:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Slash's mother, Ola, was African-American, not Nigerian. This is also stated in Slash's autobiography Slash. Also, in Uncut Magazine, Issue 129, February 2008, Slash was asked "What's the most often repeated lie you've heard about yourself?", to which he replied, "People keep asking if my mother is Nigerian. I think that one's on Wikipedia. She's not, she's African-American." User:Laxmiteaparty (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
why is this page locked?
can someone answer me this. What does Slash have to hide? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.127.81.39 (talk) 10:32, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- The article was protected because of persistent vandalism from newly registered users and IPs - not because Slash has anything "to hide". Even if he did, it wouldn't affect Wikipedia, the article wouldn't be protected because Slash wanted it to be. Funeral 20:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I've checked the protection logs and it seems that the last time this article was protected was in September of 2007. I'm no administrator, but I'd say that the article has an indefinite protection set (just like the article on George W. Bush would for obvious reasons). So if there is an error or something you'd like to add, you need to either create an account or make post on this talk page in a new section as to what should be changed or added. Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 23:59, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Slash's Grandmother is Nigerian this is possibly why people refer to his mother as being Nigerian. She is not Nigerian however because she was not born in Nigeria. Nigerian is a nationalily not an ethnicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.119.2 (talk) 01:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Why no mention of the death of Ola Hudson or the date, nor of his brother Albion “Ash” Hudson? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skatterbrainz (talk • contribs) 20:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Guns n' Roses Break-up
According to the article: "As Rose expressed a desire to pursue more progressive genres, Slash and McKagan fought to maintain their traditional sound as a punk/blues-based hard rock band. Slash later cited this issue as a key component to his inability to work with Rose on any creative level."
But first of all, there is no source where Slash cited this issue as a component of his inability to work with Rose. And second, in his newly released book (October 2007), he denies that this was one of the key components.
"I'd like to make one more thing pretty clear, because this is another question that haunts me almost every day, usually because it's asked by people who don't know me at all. I'd like to state, very simply once more why I chose not to continue on with Guns N' Roses so that no one feels the need to ask me this ever again when they see me on the street. Here it goes: 1) the constant disrespect for all involved by going on late for no good reason night after night after night, 2) the legal manipulation that Axl forces on us, from demanding ownership of the name to downgrading us, contractually, to hired hands, and 3) losing Izzy and Steven, who were such an integral part of the band's sound an personality ... without them, the band no longer had its original chemistry
My departure had nothing to do with artistic differences, as many people claim to know. It was not as simple as 'Axl wanted synths and Slash was old-school.' It had nothing to do with Axl wanting to do digital and Slash staying analog. "
- "Slash", By Slash and Anthony Bozza 2007.
Someone with permissions should probably change the article as this is obviously incorrect information.
88.107.193.221 (talk) 21:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC) Alexander, Jan 29, 2008
This page has too much of a fanzine sound!
The page is too long. That can be fixed. However, some of the adjectives I've found throughout the page are not NPOV in the least. Words like "legendary", "icon", "greatest" and others should be used only in quotations. Please, remember that we must present evidence, good and bad about the individual backed up by references with NPOV- a Neutral Point of view. Allow the reader to draw their own evaluation of the people in the wikipedia. Thank you. --leahtwosaints (talk) 10:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The Jimi Hendrix article contains the word 'greatest' in reference to his guitar playing and being an 'icon', are you going to complain about that as well? Maxtitan (talk) 21:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
The good old issue about being Jewish
This article keeps stating, without citing a source, that Slash is Jewish, despite the fact that Slash himself several times in interviews and on his own web site has made it clear that he is not Jewish. See also Talk:Slash (musician)/Archive 1. /130.240.199.83 (talk) 15:41, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I found this biographical article that claims otherwise [3]. Who knows? 76.109.174.153 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
He is not jewish,you are thinking of Gene Simmons--Hunter Dan (talk) 06:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
ok well errors i saw
one is that slashs main guitar is the protype slash signature model that gibson made him and he rarely uses his orignal 1988 not 1987 les paul anymore because of the fact that its damaged so much and he was born in stoke on tent, england
these are facts straight froms slashs own mouth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.249.2 (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
If slash said that he was not Jewish he is not, if he was he would say so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Back$la$h (talk • contribs) 03:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Change of pic
Changed the picture to a more 'iconic' picture of Slash performing at his peak of notoriety on the famous Use Your Illusion tour —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slashseed (talk • contribs) 20:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Reverted this edit. The original picture was bigger, clearer, better lit, included his top hat, included his signature guitar (which he uses a lot at the moment, during the 80s and early 90s he was known for a Gibson Les Paul Standard not that red number in the picture you uploaded) and shows his face. WHEN a photo was taken isn't too important provided an artist has changed little during that time; Slash looks as much like the icon he was in 87 as he looks like an icon in any year since in that photo really. (The Elfoid (talk) 19:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC))
Sweet Child O' Mine Intro Riff is Not In D Flat
Hi There. The article (under the "Honors" section) states that the famous intro riff in Sweet Child O' Mine is in D-Flat.
It isn't. It's in E Flat!
Someone should fix this.
(GregB777 (talk) 17:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC))
I don't know the key since I don't care when playing, but the Riff is based on a D-Chord. Since it's tuned down it's D-Flat so it's based on D-Flat, the key might be E or something. The sentence isn't talking about the key ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.135.11.207 (talk) 20:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
It's in E flat minor. It's based on the minor pentatonic, with a root note of E flat. Hence the key being Eb minor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.71.167.9 (talk) 07:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The key is not D-flat, E-flat, E-minor or Eb-minor. It's actually Db-flat. I am a musician and hence very certain of this. When you play it on a normal-tuned guitar (e b g d a e) you usually play it on the 12th fret of some wierd reason, i never do, and then you play it in D-flat. But GnR played it down-tuned (eb bb gb db ab eb) and therefore the key is in Db-flat. Joke (talk) 22:21, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Is this really strictly speaking relevant? Harmancius (talk) 12.21, 09 October 2008 (UTC)
slash
omg whoever rote that artcile on slash i freakin retarded saul hudson is not his real name u idiot its Sam Donovey godddd you are so dumb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.79.93 (talk) 00:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why you think that, but it's incorrect. Slash is just a nickname. His birth name is Saul Hudson. He doesn't have a middle name. Also, if you are going to edit Wikipedia, please don't type like that. People work hard to get these articles up to the standards that they are. Something that resembles English is usually used. As a last note, please sign your posts.Lemonhead112 (talk) 06:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Second highest selling debut album
"With 15 million copies sold in the United States, it is the second highest selling debut album of all time, behind Boston's debut album." This is incorrect. The album's article Appetite for Destruction clearly stated that it is the #4 debut. That claim has a source, this hasn't. By the way, why is the article protected? Naurmacil (talk) 12:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The Boston article states that Boston's debut is the second highest selling album of all time, behind GNR's AfD... Actarus000 (talk) 22:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
SLASH'S GUITAR STYLE/LEARNING/INFLUENCES
I am new to wikipedia but have been a fan of slash for a while. I was thinking that slash has a very unique guitar style/way of learning and it isnt really highlighted in the article. He is very much blues influenced, self taught and cannot read music. From his autobiography he states that eddie van halen was a large influence on him and while many guitarists were practising their hammer on's and pull off's he was more influenced by eddie's rhythmic ability. Slash states that he learned many songs by ear. He has stated that he likes to come up with interesting sounding licks to warm up rather than do methodical practise with scales from a book. His solos and playing style are usually characterised with rolling licks and legato as opposed to shredding/picking every note he also likes to palm mute notes when playing rhythme. He sometimes uses pinch harmonics and tremolo picking in his playing. He has stated that other influences include jimmy page, jimi hendrix, ritchie blackmore, dave mustaine, james hetfield, angus young to name a few. There are probably quite a few points I have missed but any thoughts would be appreciated (DJR321 (talk) 13:04, 30 June 2008 (UTC))
slash is not influenced by james hetfield, he did have a guitar teacher, and he most certainly can read music, especially at his level --92.14.217.186 (talk) 22:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)Someguy
Influences
I'm pretty sure I can find a citation of slash saying that Jeff Beck is his favourite guitarist, and a major influence. Perhaps there should be a section on influences, influence and playing style? unsigned comment added by Harmanicus (talk) 12.17, 09 October 2008 (UTC)
i've only heard him saying jimi hendrix.
Is he really "African American"?
The term "African American" refers to the descendants of (mainly) African slaves, Native Americans and white settlers living in America. Slash's mom, Ola Hudson, is Nigerian and lives in America which makes her, technically, an "African American," but an African living in America is different from an American black person. I've searched online, but I can't determine if Mrs. Hudson was born in Nigeria or America. If she was born in Nigeria and got her American citizenship, then the "American" in "African American" refers to her citizenship and should not be used to describe Slash since he is English.
- On that note, why not just say "Black English"? Not that difficult. -Matt (JVz) (talk) 21:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
- The term 'Black English' isn't generally used - 'Black British' is more usual. I would suggest that Slash is actually African American British. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- How can a British BE African "American"?? I think the most suitable word would be that he is a "Descendent" of African Americans, or simply "Black British" only if it's necessary, personally I think making those differences are irrelevant, just mentioning his ascendence would be enough.--190.31.16.253 (talk) 18:03, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Slash and Poison??
Just one thing, in the associated acts section, why is Poison there, and how is he associated with them? --HalfLife-105 (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC) HalfLife-105
- Slash auditioned for Poison but didn't get the job. I would agree that this hardly makes them an associated act. I also think this article reads as though Guns n' Roses only formed when Slash joined... but wasn't Slash a replacement for Tracii Guns in the existing band? 80.176.88.21 (talk) 23:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
- Guns was part of Axl Rose's Hollywood Rose before Rose formed Guns and Roses, Guns left that band and went on to form L.A. Guns.— Ѕandahl ♥ 02:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- According to the Wikipedia articles on Hollywood Rose and L A Guns, Tracii Guns was never a member of Hollywood Rose (although Axl Rose was a member of L A Guns before he formed Hollywood Rose). Again, according to Wikipedia, Slash and Duff McKagan replaced Tracii Guns and Ole Beich in Guns N' Roses with Steven Adler replacing Rob Gardner soon after. I think that the wording of the relevant part of this article could be improved. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 19:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- I got the Hollywood Rose-Guns connection from the Tracii Guns article.— Ѕandahl ♥ 19:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- I believe Slash DID get the job, but ended up not joining Poison because he had to wear makeup. - Wolfinator-x —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfinator-x (talk • contribs) 04:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- In his autobiography, Slash states that he was one of the ones being considered, but never actually got the job and it went to C.C. Deville. His clothes were questioned by the band though HrZ (talk) 04:17, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- I believe Slash DID get the job, but ended up not joining Poison because he had to wear makeup. - Wolfinator-x —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolfinator-x (talk • contribs) 04:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
- I got the Hollywood Rose-Guns connection from the Tracii Guns article.— Ѕandahl ♥ 19:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- According to the Wikipedia articles on Hollywood Rose and L A Guns, Tracii Guns was never a member of Hollywood Rose (although Axl Rose was a member of L A Guns before he formed Hollywood Rose). Again, according to Wikipedia, Slash and Duff McKagan replaced Tracii Guns and Ole Beich in Guns N' Roses with Steven Adler replacing Rob Gardner soon after. I think that the wording of the relevant part of this article could be improved. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 19:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
- Guns was part of Axl Rose's Hollywood Rose before Rose formed Guns and Roses, Guns left that band and went on to form L.A. Guns.— Ѕandahl ♥ 02:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
Under the topic equipment, there is a sentence that says: "Slash's favorite guitar is he aforementioned hand-made Gibson Les Paul Copy." The "he" in that sentence should be "the." Could an admin or other user please fix this typographical error?
Long Neck Tenon
Under "Signature Equipment -> Epiphone" the guitar is said to have the "standard long neck he came to request on all his guitars". This should be the standard "long neck tenon". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumpermania (talk • contribs) 12:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Perla's name is Ferrer, not Ferrar
Slash's wife name is Ferrer, not Ferrar. 79.145.47.208 (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Slash's first solo album
Steven Adler will play on Slash's solo album. Stacy Ferguson, Steven Tyler, Josh Freese and Ozzy have also been confirmed. The album will be released this summer. 79.145.47.208 (talk) 11:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Guitar used on Bad Obsession
He doesn't use a Gibson Melody Maker on the song he uses a Travis Bean guitar but im not sure which one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.104.248 (talk) 00:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Travis Beam. yes you are right its not a melody maker i dont no why they put that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tez Ray (talk • contribs) 05:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Slash is biracial
Can somebody put Slash in Category:African American rock musicians? Thank you.
lenny kravitz not on album
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hkJsxY6-I_ZblmzL-zOyTi-YpdZA
-Mack Arillo June 25 09
Slash
slash is a awesome guitarist and he is never shy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.170.90 (talk) 04:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Fergie
Add Fergie to Associated acts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.229.17.90 (talk) 17:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
- There has yet to be an "Associated acts" section added. Though yes I would agree that she should be added as they have performed together on numerous occasions.[citation needed] Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 14:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Instruments
Slash also played the banjo on the song "Breakdown" on the Illusion albums. I believe that should be under his instruments category.
slash used to ride BMX as well. are u gonna put him under the section of biker?
Iggy Pop, Chris Cornell and Flea are on the album
Slash confirmed on Twitter http://twitter.com/SlashHudson that Flea is on the solo album. Josh Freese said in a recent interview that Iggy Pop and Chris Cornell are on the album too : http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/josh-freese-on-nine-inch-nails-gnr-and-his-solo-album-212527/3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geronimo355 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
remove this sentence
"From the start, they spent half of their advance on clothes, and the other half on alcohol and drugs"
First of all, nobody on wikipedia is Slash's accountant, how do we know exactly how he managed his finances? Also Axl never was into drugs. There's no source for this claim and its kind of disrespectful and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markpomer (talk • contribs) 09:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Axl was into drugs but didnt take them on a day to day basis. Theres a video of him saying so. Look it up on youtube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tez Ray (talk • contribs) 05:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Slash's birthplace
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In the infobox it fails to mention Slash's birthplace. In his autobiography Slash, he says that he was born in Hampstead which is an area of London, England.
Please add "Hampstead, London, England" under the birthdate in the infobox. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madclaw2413 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Not done:Welcome and thanks for contributing. His autobiography is available for viewing on Amazom.com. It begins "I was born on July 23, 1965 in Stoke-on-Trent, England...." If you would like that added as his "origin" or as his birthplace if there is a better "origin", please open a new edit request. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Have a look at the following link to hear from Slash himself stating in an interview that he was born in Hampstead but grew up in Stoke-on-Trent. Please change the Wiki...thanks
http://music.uk.msn.com/interviews/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=153189559 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nibzilla (talk • contribs) 14:53, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Slashes Film cameos
slash has featured in the 1988 film 'Dead pool'. he cameos in several parts of the film, including at their video actors funeral (played by jim carrey) and also when they are fiilming the video shoot for 'welcome to the jungle'. Slash has no speaking parts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reedy180 (talk • contribs) 08:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Reasons for leaving Guns N' Roses
Why is there nothing in this article about Slash leaving Guns N' Roses? It's absence is a glaring omission from his life history.
Certainly, it should be mentioned, don't you think?
Duff's Pancreas (talk) 19:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)Duff's Pancreas
- Exactly. Slash left the band because he was tired of Axl's dictatorship.
88.11.126.107 (talk) 14:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Slash is on Saynow
Slash on Saynow : http://www.saynow.com/profile/index02?username=slash
It should be added to the external links section.
88.11.126.107 (talk) 14:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It seems more likely to me that Slash used a Travis Bean for slides not a melody maker. In this video Axl even says (introducing Bad Obsession live in Tokyo 1992) "It slides on a Travis Bean". Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 18:19, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Dave Grohl and Duff McKagan are on Slash's solo album
Slash has announced via Twitter (Sept. 20, 2009) that Dave Grohl and Duff McKagan are recording a track for Slash & Friends. http://twitter.com/slashhudson 83.40.106.19 (talk) 18:36, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ok... Might I direct you here? Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 19:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Nicole Scherzinger and Courtney Love performing with Slash
Nicole Scherzinger and Courtney Love will be performing with Slash in Las Vegas on October 2, 2009. Slash announced it on his Myspace : http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=420167906&blogId=512097797 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.36.108.251 (talk) 13:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Sahara is the first single
Sahara will be the first single from the album Slash & Friends.
Slash & Friends will be released via Universal Music
Slash's album will be released through Universal Music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.145.46.130 (talk) 08:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
Nationality
Since he is of both American and British nationality, I think it is proper to write this in the lead. He has stated that he considers himself to be British, and to leave this out would be wrong.-Duribald (talk) 16:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed, he was born in England but just having "an English musician" doesn't seem right for multiple reasons. Jeffrey Mall (talk • be merry) - 17:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
What Slash considers himself to be (nationality and ethnicity)
With reference to some debates on this page, and no doubt many future questions and disagreements on the subject, I note the following quote from Slash's autobiography:
- "As a musician, I've always been amused that I'm both British and black; particularly because so many American musicians aspire to be British while so many British musicians...went to such great pains to be black." (page 54, UK hardback edition)
Of course, he can still be referred to as American in addition to British given that he holds a dual citizenship.
86.7.211.128 (talk) 00:15, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
He is not a "Naturalized Citizen of the United States"
But, he is referred to as such in the category. Since he is an American citizen by birth, naturalization would not apply. I was going to change this but the page is locked down.(Yakofujimato (talk) 07:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC))
- While you are absolutely right that he is not a naturalised US citizen, Slash is not an American citizen "by birth" either. He is a British citizen by birth and he is entitled to American citizenship by virtue of having a parent who is an American citizen (there is a big difference), an option he has taken/his parents took for him - in addition to his British citizenship by birth (and one parent). 86.7.211.128 (talk) 00:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Because he has both an English parent and an American parent, wouldn't he have dual citizenship? Or did he renounce his British citizenship? Since this is not a cited entry, could someone cite it? I'll do it if/when I find a credible source that states this, but if someone comes up with something before I do, please cite this or remove it. In any case, he is an American citizen because his mother is. If I am wrong about this, please correct me. Thanks!
Beretta89 (talk) 00:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Twitter link needs updating
Slash's twitter has moved from twitter.com/slashhudson to simply twitter.com/slash. however, editing is disabled atm. 209.128.8.150 (talk) 13:30, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- Done thanks. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 14:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Associated Acts?
Was just wondering what Alter Bridge are doing there? I agree that Myles Kennedy should be there due to him having two tracks on Slash and also being part of his touring band but the rest of Alter Bridge don't and as far as im aware of, Slash hasn't contributed anything to them. HrZ (talk) 20:24, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Daughtry
He performed with Daughtry so perhaps this should be added in. SpoonNZ (talk) 23:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Work with Stevie Wonder?
In a interview with Jian Ghomeshi of CBC Canada, dated April 12, 2010, Slash mentions that he has NOT yet worked with Stevie Wonder. This would correct a line under the subhead 'Career - side projects and session work.' [details removed] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.246.145.233 (talk) 22:40, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Solo Career
Slash's new album came out on April 6th of 2010 in the U.S. His great hit single, By The Sword, has had alot of air time and has been a huge contribution to his album. Slash is currently on tour with his new album and gear.
Should be Added to "African-American Rock Musicians" category
Slash is already listed in the "African-American Guitarists", "African-American songwriters", and "English people of African-American descent" categories, so he should also be listed under the "African-American Rock Musicians" category as well, with along the likes of Hendrix, Morello, Harper, etc. I would have added this but his page is locked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markd detroit (talk • contribs) 22:53, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 86.179.223.42, 28 May 2010
{{editsemiprotected}} Slash was born in Hampstead,North London and brought up in Stoke,where his family are from.He said this himself in an interview 28/may/2010 on 'Live at 5' uk channel 5 TV programme.
86.179.223.42 (talk) 18:24, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Do you have another source that one can easily verify (like a news website)? —fetch•comms 18:28, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 82.23.74.74, 8 June 2010
{{editsemiprotected}}
It is a common belief that Slash was born in Stoke on Trent, but Slash himself reveiled on a recent edition of Live From Studio 5 (UK's Channel 5, aired 28/05/2010 - interview available on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJprBBREft8) that he was actually born in HAMSTEAD, North London. His Family is from Stoke and that's where he went on to live.
82.23.74.74 (talk) 15:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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Doubts about childhood?
"According to Slash, he was born in Hampstead and raised in the city of Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire."
Although he ought to be a reliable source about where he was born and raised, the wording of this sentence seems strangely equivocal, as if there is some doubt that what he says is true. Either this doubt should be explained, or the words "According to" should be deleted or changed to something that does not raise doubts in the reader's mind. 86.161.80.100 (talk) 22:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Edit 2011-05-01
I just reworked the entire article to make it—hopefully—less of a disaster. In addition to tidying the article's language and adding sourced material that I thought noteworthy, I've made the following changes:
- Lead: Removed "American" per wiki guidelines (see WP:OPENPARA)—he became notable as a British national and didn't obtain American citizenship until years later, plus he seems to identify solely as British.
- Early life: Changed move to LA at age eleven to age five (with primary source)—always read it was age eleven, but age five makes much more sense with regard to his parents' mid-'70s separation. Removed Robert Wolin story as it contradicts the previous paragraph (which is sourced, while the Wolin mention is not)—who inspired Slash to play guitar, the school teacher who played Cream and Led Zep, or Robert Wolin who played Brown Sugar? Is it the same guy?
- Created "Slash's Snakepit" section from material in "Guns N' Roses and mainstream success" section. Separated "Velvet Revolver, solo career, and future" section into "Velvet Revolver" and "Solo career" sections. Created "Other ventures" section including material from "Television appearances" section.
- Removed a large amount of non-notable material from "Side projects and session work" and "Velvet Revolver, solo career, and future" sections, including all concerts that did not end up on a record—wikipedia articles are not intended to be all-encompassing lists of everything the person's ever done.
- Personal life: Removed "Feud" header as it is needlessly inflammatory. Removed "Hard N' Heavy" section as it has nothing to do with his personal life. Removed "Feud with Ryan Murphy" as it is non-notable and smacks of WP:RECENTISM—it barely deserves a one-line mention much less an entire paragraph.
- Moved "Awards and accolades" section from below "Discography" up to below "Personal life".
- Removed "Solo band members" section and added their names to "Solo career"—doesn't require a separate section. Removed "Timeline" image for being hideous and unnecessary—the timeline of his bands is made clear by looking at the "Career" section headers (e.g. "Guns N' Roses (1985–1996)"). Feel free to re-add if you must.
- Added structure to "Signature equipment" section.
Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 21:51, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
- He is an American musician of British origin or originally from England, he's played Star Spangled Banner at live events. 99.164.0.219 23:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
- Citizenship is the only thing that defines one as American. Hence he is American and your removal is unwarranted. Savagedjeff (talk) 01:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Hampstead vs. Stoke-on-Trent
Stoke-on-Trent is his birth place on the official site and some bios, so why Hampstead?--Shivanarayana (talk) 22:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's really isn't. Not only does he say in his book that he was born in Hampstead (sourced in the article), he has stated it during interviews. He later moved to Stoke-on-Trent before moving to Los Angeles. HrZ (talk) 13:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you google for "Slash Stoke-on-Trent" you see as first result "I was born on July 23, 1965, in Stoke-on-Trent, England, the town where Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead was born twenty years before me" from the book cited as source. Did it change from the 2007-edition to the 2008 one? It seems a bit strange, isn't it?--Shivanarayana (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah, the 2007 edition of Slash contained several factual errors, including the place of his birth, which were corrected in the 2008 edition. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 14:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- If you google for "Slash Stoke-on-Trent" you see as first result "I was born on July 23, 1965, in Stoke-on-Trent, England, the town where Lemmy Kilmister of Motorhead was born twenty years before me" from the book cited as source. Did it change from the 2007-edition to the 2008 one? It seems a bit strange, isn't it?--Shivanarayana (talk) 19:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Spelling mistake
The first sentence currently reads "Saul Hudson (born July 23, 1965), known by his stage name Slash, is an Americah musician and songwriter". I suspect that "Americah" should say "American".77.99.98.37 (talk) 19:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Appearance in other media
Slash was referred to in Season 15 Episode 5 of South Park. He was stated to be a fictional character (like Santa Clause). He played a pretty big role in the episode (by name). 184.166.26.1 (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- This is a biography of a living person, not an article about a fictional character. There are no "other media". If there were, would real life the original "medium"? Or would that be the music? And then it just gets silly. Who wrote Slash? Who created him? Perhaps our conception of "Slash" is the construct that has been fashioned by the artist known as Slash. (That much is at least partially true.) Perhaps there's a good undergraduate essay to be had out of the question "How does Slash construct our notions of Slash?"
- No.~ZytheTalk to me! 13:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Nationality in lead section
Editors regularly change the nationality in the lead section of this article from British to American. For the record, Slash is not, never has been, and likely never will be just American. He was a British citizen for the first 30 years of his life and then became a dual British-American citizen.
Wiki guidelines (see WP:OPENPARA) state that the lead section of a BLP should indicate the person's nationality, or—in cases where the person changed his or her nationality—the person's nationality when they first became notable.
Slash did not acquire American citizenship until 1996, long after his notability was established. Therefore he should be referred to as British in the lead section per wiki guidelines. His dual citizenship is mentioned in the Personal life section of the article.
Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 11:44, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
- His nationality is American. He is by definiton American. When he became a citizen is not relevant. He has also lived most of his live in the US. It should be British-American, like Austrian-American for Arnold. You also pulled "in cases where the person changed his or her nationality" out of nowhere. That is NOT written in the criteria. Stop being deceptive. Savagedjeff (talk) 21:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Slash was born to an American mother and a British father.The article states he is British by virtue of Jus Soli.Jus soli doesn't come into it.He is British by virtue of having a British parent,which is the principle of Jus Sanguinis.Being born to an American mother would also entitle him to automatic American citizenship so I am unsure why he needed to naturalise in 1996,as the article states. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.15.30 (talk) 22:18, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Deceptive? My interpretation of the guideline is correct, I deceived no one. Take your unfounded accusations elsewhere.
- "His nationality is American. He is by definiton American. When he became a citizen is not relevant."
- When he became a citizen IS relevant per the guideline. Slash did not become an American until he acquired citizenship, until then he was a Brit living and working in the US on a green card, and he became notable during that period. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an exception probably because he is active in US politics. Charlize Theron is a better comparison with Slash; she moved to the US at a young age, became notable through her US work, became a US citizen several years later, and yet per WP:OPENPARA she is referred to as South African and not South African-American. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 08:52, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- I've changed my mind, I will edit the lead section to state British-American. Editors unaware of Slash's history will continue to change British to American, and I have no desire to keep having to change it back, much less debate it. And even though the hyphenation of "British-American" is potentially confusing to readers (British and American or American of British descent?), it's at least better than the factually incorrect "American". Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 09:42, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
- Somewhat related to this: In Early Years, his Mother is identified as "African American". Given that she was in Briton at the time of his birth, is this the appropriate label? (99.236.206.14 (talk) 03:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC))
- Your nationality doesn't change just because you live in a foreign country. Take for example Slash himself, who lived in the U.S. for 25 years and yet was not American. Cheers, 06:18, 28 September 2011 (UTC).
Slash was born an American by virtue of being born to an American mother.Just as he was born British by being born to a British father.I don't understand why it is said he needed a green card to live in the US. My daughter is in exactly the same situation;she was born and has lived all four of her years in the UK.she has American citizenship through her mother and British citizenship through me.She has both passports and can travel and live freely in both countries so I speak from experience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 7sacraments (talk • contribs) 22:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Plague presented by the mayor of West Hollywood
In the section entitled "Awards and accolades" we find the statement: He was the honoree at the 2010 Sunset Strip Music Festival, where he was presented by mayor John Heilman with a plague declaring August 26, 2010 as "Slash Day". This statement of the presentation of a plague is not supported by the cited reference. The cited reference does mention the mayor (although it mentions previous mayor Abbe Land and not the subsequent office holder and award presenter Mayor John Heilman) and the declaration of "Slash Day" being August 26, 2010. Regardless of who held the office of mayor at the time I suspect that the mayor presented Slash with a plaque not a plague. Plagues are much harder to write on than plaques are and make much for gifts that are usually not appreciated as gifts by their recipients. 164.55.254.106 (talk) 21:36, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- I take it this is your long-winded way of pointing out a typo? (Although it is a funny one.) Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 08:13, 14 June 2011 (UTC).
South Park reference
Also, Slash was prominently referenced on a recent episode of South Park. As a Santa Claus type figure -- disillusioned kids find out he isn't real, etc. But then a "Yes, Virginia" type twist at the end. Might be worthwhile mentioning that here. --Christofurio (talk) 17:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- I agree 80.132.71.83 (talk) 12:59, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- Uh... We're talking about a famous musician, with a career spanning decades. How the frig is a brief reference in a cartoon even remotely 'notable' in terms of his biography? So notable, in fact, that it requires its own section? Undue weight much? 216.254.156.13 (talk) 05:31, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. I'm removing the section per WP:POPCULTURE (not policy, but certainly useful here), which says: "When trying to decide if a pop culture reference is appropriate to an article, ask yourself the following: 1) Has the subject acknowledged the existence of the reference? 2) Have reliable sources that don't generally cover the subject pointed out the reference? 3) Did any real-world event occur because of the reference? If you can't answer "yes" to at least one of these, you're just adding trivia. Get all three and you're possibly adding valuable content." None of the above can be answered affirmatively. Slash posted "I'm not real? :(" on his Facebook, which is too indirect to be considered a true acknowledgment. It's gone. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Sigh, i'm guessing you kids haven't had the talk with your parents yet?
Band members
Is this section strictly necessary? Slash is not a band, he is a solo artist, and articles on solo artists do not customarily include a list of the artist's backing band members. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 12:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- Alice Cooper, Rob Zombie, Billy Idol and Ozzy Osbourne have similar sections. However, because many articles for solo artists differ in content, can hardly use them as arguements for inclusion/removal. I don't believe that including a band members section implies that Slash is a band. Though it's not necessary, I think it should be included. They have recorded and released live albums with Slash and plan to record a second studio album (wither as under Slash's name or a different name remains to be seen) while the lineup itself is notable. HrZ (talk) 13:48, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- C'mon, the lineup itself is not in any way notable; half of the "members" listed played with him only in 2009. I still see no reason why they should be mentioned on Slash's personal page separate from the section on his solo career, but whatever, I won't remove the section. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- Not in anyway notable? All the band members have been members of notable groups. The 2009 "members" shouldn't really be there though; they were just there for the recording of the album, I have yet to see anything that states they were members of his solo band. HrZ (talk) 09:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- C'mon, the lineup itself is not in any way notable; half of the "members" listed played with him only in 2009. I still see no reason why they should be mentioned on Slash's personal page separate from the section on his solo career, but whatever, I won't remove the section. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 15:41, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
- The individual musicians may be notable (barely), but that doesn't mean the lineup is. It ain't the E Street Band. Dunno, maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Anyway, you say half the musicians that are listed shouldn't be, so they should be deleted. That leaves the four main members, who are already mentioned prominently in the "Solo career" section (I know because I added them there). Ergo, there is no use in keeping the "Band members" section. It's just another pointless list that takes up space in the article. I still vote delete. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 13:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Since no one else has objected (including the editor who added it), it's gone. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Reverted removal. I'm pretty sure this isn't the way to sort things out. You wanted it removed, I disagreed so...you remove it? Simply because no one else joined in? What's the rush sir? As for your previous comments, it goes without saying that the lineup is hardly the E Street Band band, but we are not disputing wither or not they are notable enough to warrant their own article. Saying that, an article could be created because it passes WP:BAND; "Is an ensemble which contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a member of two or more independently notable ensembles." However, an article would be going to far. Being mentioned prominently in the article is also no reason to removal as it is common place to do so; "Embedded lists are lists of links, data or information that are either included in the text of an article or appended to the end of an article." - WP:EMBED. As for "takes up space in the article" - it's not as if we have limited space to work with. I believe the list should be included because the lineup features independant notable musicians who have have releases with Slash.
- Since no one else has objected (including the editor who added it), it's gone. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 19:57, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- If we can't agree, then we can seek a third opinion on the matter, but in future, do not remove content based on lack of other editors involvment. Thanks! HrZ (talk) 12:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I removed it because the line of discussion had already moved beyond your initial disagreement (if you recall, you admitted that the 2009 members—aka half the musicians listed—"shouldn't be there") and yet you chose to abandon the conversation, which is fine by me, but after waiting a week I saw no reason to keep this information. "He who remains silent, consents" has worked just fine for me on Wikipedia thus far and will continue to do so. "Thanks!" Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 13:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- Please don't just assume I abandoned the conversation. I never seen that there was a reply here and didn't check until I noticed your edit summary in the article. "He who remains silent, consents" doesn't apply here, you knew of my disagreement in the first place, so I was hardly silent, and you decided that I wasn't taking part any further without checking first (and despite previously stating "whatever, I won't remove the section"). You could have easily messaged me on my talk page asking if I'm continuing with the discussion or if I have withdrawn my disagreement following your reply. Doesn't matter if you waited a week, there's no rush or deadline, the section isn't disrupting the article so I don't see why you couldn't wait. Also see WP:SILENT; "Consensus can be presumed to exist until voiced disagreement becomes evident (typically through reverting or editing). You find out whether your edit has consensus when it sticks, is built upon by others, and most importantly when it is used or referred to by others."
- Yes, I removed it because the line of discussion had already moved beyond your initial disagreement (if you recall, you admitted that the 2009 members—aka half the musicians listed—"shouldn't be there") and yet you chose to abandon the conversation, which is fine by me, but after waiting a week I saw no reason to keep this information. "He who remains silent, consents" has worked just fine for me on Wikipedia thus far and will continue to do so. "Thanks!" Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 13:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
- And yes, I did say that the 2009 "members" should be removed, what is your point? I still think they should be removed because they were not members of his solo band, they were recording musicians. But I still think the section should be kept; Four current members + one former, all notable musicians that have releases with Slash. I should point out that you removed it from the article in the first place without discussion, though you listed in your edits above stating "Feel free to re-add if you must." HrZ (talk) 10:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- In that case I apologize, it was presumptuous of me to think you left the conversation without checking with you. I just assumed you had this page watchlisted like me because you seem to have an interest in GNR-related articles.
- My point was that the scope of what we were discussing had changed. I suggested removing the section, you disagreed—fine. (Hence why I said, "I won't remove the section"). But then you suggested removing the 2009 members, and since the four remaining members are already mentioned prominently within the solo section, I felt it was even more unnecessary to have them in a separate list because it just duplicates information. But you disagreed on that, too, in your last reply, so there is really no point in discussing this further. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 21:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Response to third opinion request ( Talk:Slash (musician)#Band members. Disagreement about the inclusion of a band members section in the article. 10:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC) ): |
Please first see WP:NLIST. Given that there is a disagreement as to whether WP:BAND is applicable to the members of each of the members of the musical group, may I suggest that the involved editors see if the band members pass WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG. If they do not, then they are not notable, and thus shouldn't be included, list or their own article. If they do, then the list should be included, and individual articles be created. That being said, such list as being discussed above should remain in articles regarding the band themselves. If there is a section which is the primary "article" (possibly due to merger) of said band, a sub-section list of band members would be appropriate.—RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:08, 26 July 2011 (UTC) |
- "f there is a section which is the primary "article" ... a sub-section list of band members would be appropriate." So the list should be added to the "Solo career" section rather than the end of the article? I could definitely get behind that, especially if the names were presented in a drop-down box. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 21:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, moving it as a sub-section under solo career would solve the issue, would have no issue with a drop-down box either. HrZ (talk) 13:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
- "f there is a section which is the primary "article" ... a sub-section list of band members would be appropriate." So the list should be added to the "Solo career" section rather than the end of the article? I could definitely get behind that, especially if the names were presented in a drop-down box. Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 21:47, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
iTunes Session EP
Slash and Myles Kennedy recorded a 6-song EP for iTunes (iTunes Session) in 2010. How come no one has picked up on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by David7581 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
One-string guitar?
What is a one-string flamenco guitar? In the "early life" section - "...Equipped with a one-string flamenco guitar given to him by his grandmother, he began taking classes with Robert Wolin..." TheDarkOneLives (talk) 14:50, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- A flamenco guitar with one string. Sometimes a cigar... Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 18:35, 8 September 2011 (UTC).
Edit request on 28 March 2012
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The picture of slash is inaccurate representation of him. This photo makes him look older than he really is because of the position he is standing. use a different pic Guitarhero249 (talk) 02:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Not done: this request template should be accompanied by specifically what you want taken out and what you want put in. If you don't have the replacement image handy, there's not much we can do. — Bility (talk) 21:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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Part of the page states...
On stage, Slash prefers Marshall amplifiers, particularly the Marshall "Silver Jubilee" JCM 2555 amp. He used a rented early-1970s Marshall 1959 for the recording of Appetite for Destruction.[74] Slash liked the amp so much that he tried to keep it, telling the store that it had been stolen, but it was returned accidentally by a roadie.[74]
I followed the source and it doesnt say that it was returned by a roadie, but states "On stage, Slash prefers Marshall amplifiers, particularly the Marshall "Silver Jubilee" JCM 2555 amp. He used a rented early-1970s Marshall 1959 for the recording of Appetite for Destruction.[74] Slash liked the amp so much that he tried to keep it, telling the store that it had been stolen, but it was returned accidentally by a roadie.[74] "
Dolejh (talk) 15:13, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
- I've amended the article, but for future use please keep in mind that when using this template you must specify the exact content you want added to the article. Cheers, Prayer for the wild at heart (talk) 17:31, 7 April 2012 (UTC).
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