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Archive 1

Requested move 3 July 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved. See general agreement below to grant this request. Strong opposition is noted; however, strong support translates to consensus. Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy Publishing! (nac by page mover) Paine Ellsworthed. put'r there  18:35, 12 July 2019 (UTC)


Mohandas Gandhi (Patel)Statue of Mahatma Gandhi (New York City) – For consistency with other "Statue of XXX" articles, disambiguated by location. See related discussion at Talk:Mohandas K. Gandhi (sculpture, San Francisco), as well as Talk:Mahatma Gandhi (sculpture) --Another Believer (Talk) 21:17, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ham II, In ictu oculi, Johnbod, and Randy Kryn: Making you all aware of this request since you've participated in related discussions. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:18, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Support. What on earth would "Mohandas Gandhi (Patel)" or "Mohandas Gandhi (New York City)" mean to anybody? It's a statue. Say it's a statue. We've had this debate before. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Would you change Moses (Michelangelo) to 'Statue of Moses', or thousands of named paintings to this type of style (Painting of Mona Lisa)? If paintings aren't listed this way why are statues, and only some statues at that, and why change the real name of the artwork in the process? Hopefully the closer won't just rely on number of ivotes but look at the issue logically. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:28, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
Because the common name for public statues like this one is "statue of..."! You wouldn't say "I saw Patel's Mohandas Gandhi", now, would you? Even if you knew who the hell Patel was! Public commemorative statues just aren't described in that way. Even very famous ones by famous sculptors ("I saw the statue of Winston Churchill in Parliament Square", not "I saw Roberts-Jones's Winston Churchill"). You would, however, say "I saw Michelangelo's Moses" or "I saw the Mona Lisa"! It's a matter of context and common usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
bah, humbug. "I saw Monet's Haystacks" and "I turned the corner and there was The Starry Night" (which is quite the memory not knowing that it was there - saw MoMA cold without ever hearing of it before) might not work either. And do you think the average high schooler (I'll give college students the benefit of a doubt) would know what "Michelangelo's Moses" is? But I say again, bah, humbug, and repeat what I saw an editor write earlier, "Happy Amexit Day." Randy Kryn (talk) 19:13, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Yes, I can hardly make him out through the haze of his real name and the sourced real name of the statue. Closer, please take a dose of common sense, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:15, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
The subject of the article, not the subject of the statue. Ham II (talk) 19:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.