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Reviewer: Kyle Peake (talk · contribs) 07:12, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for taking this on. I'll be working on it a bit at a time. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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Infobox and lead[edit]
- Don't note UK and US after the labels but keep them in the infobox
- Mention the song being by Fleetwood Mac before you mention the writer
- Identify them as a British-American rock band
- "It is an" → "The song is an"
- Sure twelve shouldn't be 12?
- WikiLink to Twelve-bar blues
- "The song was first" → ""Stop Messin' Round" was first"
- Maybe move the info about the initial release to the first para?
- "The song is included" → "The song has been included"
- "and Aerosmith have" → "and Aerosmith, have"
- Mention reception somewhere here, including what most critics commented on
- Remove ref 1 as that is sourced in the body
Lyrics[edit]
- "Fleetwood Mac's "Stop Messin' Round" is credited" → ""Stop Messin' Round" is credited"
- "often used by the group's manager" → "often used by Fleetwood Mac's manager"
- "Only two 12-bar verses" → "Only two of the song's 12-bar verses"
- "He uses" → "His version uses" and are you sure this shouldn't be in the releases section?
- Target "Stop Breakin' Down Blues" to "Stop Breaking Down"
Recording and musical style[edit]
- Are you sure this shouldn't be above lyrics section?
- "(and future McVie wife" → "(also future McVie wife"
- "Perfect and saxophone players" → "Perfect, and saxophone players"
- "album.[6]" → "album in 1968.[6]"
- "more typical of live performances" → "more typical of live performances for the song"
- "public address or PA system" → "public address system (PA system)"
- "sees it as attempt" → "sees it as an attempt"
- Target Chess Studios to Chess Records
- Why is the word American included?
- "such as B.B. King (to whom he was often compared)" → "such as B.B. King, to whom he was often compared"
Reception[edit]
- Add overview of the recepton (positive/mixed/negative etc.)
- ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem"" → ""Mr. Wonderful's one gem""
Renditions[edit]
- "best-known songs" → "most well-known songs" more encyclopedic
- "of the song, that appears" → "of the song, which appears"
- "In a 1996 review in" → "In a 1996 review for"
- Introduce who Aerosmith are
- "what we do best."" → "what we do best"."
- A complete sentence is quoted, so used punctuation "within" (MOS:INOROUT). —Ojorojo (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- "played the song at" → "played the song during"
Footnotes[edit]
- WP:NOTBROKEN includes "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles. Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. However, changing to a piped link is beneficial only in a few cases. Piping links solely to avoid redirects is generally a time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental. It is almost never helpful to replace
[[redirect]]
with[[target|redirect]]
." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NOTBROKEN includes "There is usually nothing wrong with linking to redirects to articles. Some editors are tempted, upon finding a link to a redirect page, to bypass the redirect and point the link directly at the target page. However, changing to a piped link is beneficial only in a few cases. Piping links solely to avoid redirects is generally a time-wasting exercise that can actually be detrimental. It is almost never helpful to replace
- Target "44 Blues" to "Forty-Four"
- Target "Stop Breakin' Down Blues" to "Stop Breaking Down"
- "Peter Green's response" → "Green's response"
References[edit]
- Template:Cite web#Parameters includes: "Do not use the publisher parameter for the name of a work (e.g. a website, book, encyclopedia, newspaper, magazine, journal, etc.) ... Not normally used for periodicals. Omit where the publisher's name is substantially the same as the name of the work." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Refs 3, 4, 18, 21, 22, 25, 28 and 33 should cite AllMusic as the publisher
- Refs 15, 23, 24 and 31 shouldn't use at
It's automatically added when using Template:AllMusic (also removes italics): "The template can be used for any link to AllMusic's website, including the 'External links' section or when citing it as a source." —Ojorojo (talk) 18:07, 14 February 2020 (UTC)I did some more checking and remember problems using the AllMusic template, so I'll change all these to the regular citeweb. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 20 should have Official Charts Company as the publisher
- Ref 30 should cite Guitar World as the website not Guitarworld.com
- In the case of Guitar World, Variety, Billboard, etc., the websites are different than their print magazines. I'll look into this. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- This explains use of work/website and publisher. Generally, 1) whatever the webpage is titled should be used (the ".com" is usually not part of it); 2) publisher= is not needed if work/website name is substantially the same or is well-known. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 36 should cite Variety not Variety.com
- Ref 37 should cite PopMatters not Popmatters.com
Final comments and verdict[edit]
On hold until the changes are done and maybe include an image of the writer? --Kyle Peake (talk) 13:27, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- Add alt text
- ✓ Pass, well done --Kyle Peake (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)