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Those darn bots[edit]

Is there a way to stop all of these bots from "fixing" the French interwiki, once and for all? I don't want to have to contact each bot owner, especially since some of them are hard to get in touch with. -- Spireguy (talk) 17:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think they can be stopped, other than raising this behaviour in some appropriate forum (I think there is a committee somewhere which approves bots).
On the other hand, I must admit that this article's link to the French Wikipedia is not very informative — fr:Sommet doesn't cover what the other languages cover, but simply explains the concept in one sentence. So, in a way, the bot is not totally wrong here, but I still believe this is an editorial decision which must not be made by a bot. Regards, Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There may be a better French page to link to than fr:Sommet, but the page that all of these bots keep linking to is totally unrelated. So indeed, some human intervention (preferably from the French Wikipedia) would be helpful. -- Spireguy (talk) 02:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zenith is a synonym?[edit]

According to this article, "zenith" is a synonym for summit, and the link to Zenith_(topography) redirects back to here.

I studied geology, and later surveying at university, and currently work at a national hydrographic office, and have never heard zenith used in this manner. Nor have I heard nadir used in the manner described at Nadir_(topography).

In technical useage, I have only ever heard them used to mean either the point directly above/below an observer or instrument (e.g. a boat, satellite, surveyor, etc), or the direction vertically upwards/downwards from the observer (plus the specific astronomical meanings given in zenith and nadir.

Who uses zenith and nadir to mean a summit or a deep? Wardog (talk) 10:29, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it is an American usage. Yours aye, Buaidh (talk) 13:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm a yank, and I've never heard zenith used as a synonym for summit. The top of a mountain is always either peak or summit. Sometimes "peak" can be used to refer to the whole mountain. "Zenith" is either the imaginary point overhead or a brand of TV. FWIW, I minored in geology in college. Wschart (talk) 19:21, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can anyone who knows this stuff clear up some confusion?[edit]

If the top of a mountain is shaped like the letter "M" and one tip is about 200m taller than the other, then according to this article, it wouldn't qualify as a separate mountain. But the article also states that it's not just about the height difference ("topographic prominence"), but also about the distance between the tips ("topographic isolation"). The problem is that the article doesn't say how far the other tip has to be to qualify as a separate mountain.

An example of what I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Elbrus_North_195.jpg How far would those summits have to be from each-other to be counted as separate mountais?
I added the third column (with question marks) to the little table.

GMRE (talk) 23:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 16:38, 12 October 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Summit (topography) → Summit
Summit → Summit (disambiguation)

– 1. The only topic widely known enough to be the primary topic for "summit" is summit (topography). Most the others on the dab page are places which are not well-known enough to be the primary and therefore have to be separately disambiguated anyway. "Summit (meeting)" is the only other likely contender, but I submit it is far less commonly used than summit in the sense of mountaintop. 2. As confirmation of this, "Summit (topography)" is the top article actually selected on Wikipedia's search function. 3. There are over 14,000 links to "summit (topography)" but less than 500 to "summit (meeting)". Bermicourt (talk) 16:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support – seems entirely reasonable. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:54, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support - agree per above --RacerX¹¹ Talk to me^{Stalk me} 12:48, 6 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.