Talk:The Hustler (novel)
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Spoilers & neutrality
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Someone who knows how should put a spoiler disclaimer on this page as it gives away the plot of the movie. [-anon.]
- Somebody has done so.... how do you remove the 'neutrality' warning? [--anonymous]
- The neutrality warning belongs there until that last part of the article is either re-written or removed. What's currently there is a review (eg "The dialog is frought with cracks and emptiness." - and I think "frought" is the wrong word anyway). I'm sure it's very good, but it's not remotely encyclopaedic. --Cardinal Wurzel 17:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
- Marking this topic resolved, as all of the issues raised have been long since dealt with. PS: The word someone was looking for was "fraught". — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 11:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
- The neutrality warning belongs there until that last part of the article is either re-written or removed. What's currently there is a review (eg "The dialog is frought with cracks and emptiness." - and I think "frought" is the wrong word anyway). I'm sure it's very good, but it's not remotely encyclopaedic. --Cardinal Wurzel 17:32, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 13:47, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- ... that Walter Tevis, author of the novel The Hustler, always insisted that the "Minnesota Fats" and "Fast Eddie" characters were fictitious, denying claims to the contrary?
"Sources: https://brickmag.com/an-interview-with-walter-tevis/ "A lot of people ask me, 'When did you first meet Minnesota Fats?' And I feel like Walt Disney being asked, 'When did you meet Donald Duck?' Come on, I made him up." https://books.google.com/books?id=OMc7Zcxrf3MC&pg=PA169&dq=fats+and+eddie+were+works+of+fiction&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjb7tXG_4SBAxXUnYkEHahSAzAQ6AF6BAgKEAI#v=onepage&q=fats%20and%20eddie%20were%20works%20of%20fiction&f=false "Tevis always swore that Fats and Eddie were works of fiction..."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Borough Hall/Court Street station
- Comment:
I note that this fails DYK check for some reason; however article expansion began on Aug. 27 and exceeds 5X when comparing the character count of the Aug 29 version with the pre-expansion version 25 Sept 2022Now passes DYK check
5x expanded by Coretheapple (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 30 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/The Hustler (novel); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- Comment: This would be better as "... denying claims to the contrary?", since there is one and only one notable claim to the contrary, and people will want to know about it in the context, which kind of begs it. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:28, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed. Coretheapple (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Please note that I am expanding the hook to include Fast Eddie. Seems logical to include that as both characters were claimed by pool players. Having done so, it is hard to include hyperlinks for both persons because of space constraints so have removed the one for the Fats character, but of course they are both in the article. Coretheapple (talk) 19:36, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, agreed. Coretheapple (talk) 14:05, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Review: article expanded 5x (934 to 5768 char); length is good; reliably sourced; plagiarism free; QPQ good; hook cited; hook is interesting. Personally, I prefer something like "...that despite claims to the contrary, novelist Walter Tevis insisted that the characters of "Minnesota Fats" and "Fast Eddie" in The Hustler were fictitious? Viriditas (talk) 10:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yes agree re hook. Thanks. Coretheapple (talk) 13:21, 9 October 2023 (UTC)