Talk:The Lockdown Sessions (Roger Waters album)
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Why does this article classify it as an "EP"?
[edit]I am not convinced that the article's description of this release as an EP is correct. I can't see that it has been described officially as an EP, and sources seem to disagree whether it is an EP or an album/LP. Ultimate Classic Rock describes it as an "album", and also uses the term "LP" to describe it. Louder Sound also describes it as an "album", and also quotes Roger Waters himself talking about the release in an interview, in which he consistently calls it an "album". In addition, it is also listed under "albums" on Spotify. Conversely, NME does call it an EP. However, I cannot see any official sources desribing it as anything else than an album, and both Waters himself, streaming services and several newspaper reports describe it as an album, despite the fact that certain media sources have used the term "EP". In addition, its length (39:31) is usual LP length, and describing such a long release as an EP would be quite odd. It is actually 6 seconds longer than Pink Floyd's second LP, A Saucerful of Secrets, as well as almost 10 minutes longer than their first compilation LP, The Best of the Pink Floyd, whose running time was below 30 minutes. I could note, in search of an objective definition, that the Official Charts Company defines an EP a musical release which is less than 25 minutes long, and has no more than four tracks. The Lockdown Sessions fails the definition on both counts; it is almost twice as long as the maximum allowed running time of an EP, and it also has 50% too many tracks to chart as an EP in the UK. In addition, I can't see that any official sources have described it as an EP, and Waters himself as well as streaming services and several media reports describe it as an album or LP.
So why is it described as an EP, rather than as an album, in this article? Maybe User:Diomandz11, as the article's creator, could elaborate on this? Te og kaker (talk) 23:15, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- I have seen sources describe this as an album and an EP, I thought it didn't make too much sense either but on google if you look it up it states it's an EP. Really it's more of a remix album but I had found more sources stating its an EP rather than an album. Diomandz11 (talk) 23:26, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- But it meets none of the requirements for an EP and all of the requirements for an album. For example, Yes's 1980 Drama album is roughly three minutes shorter than this and also has six tracks. Despite what people are calling it, Wikipedia should reflect the true definitions and refer to this as an album. I don't know if people seem to believe that it being a digital-only release disqualifies it as an album - but it does not, an album can be digital-only. – Dyolf87 (talk) 09:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have to agree with consensus that this isn't really an EP. The only question I would have is whether or not it's considered live, by virtue of all the tracks being recorded "live" via zoom, or studio by virtue of the fact they were recorded without an audience and possibly were edited afterward. There's also the question of whether it's a compilation since all the tracks were released ahead of time, albeit in video form. I don't have any strong thoughts, except it's an LP. No question. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 06:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Musicians contributing via the Internet (Zoom or otherwise) is nothing new and has been done many times before, it doesn't change the fact it is still a studio recording. Releasing tracks ahead of time is traditionally called releasing singles which doesn't mean the album is a compilation. – Dyolf87 (talk) 09:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I have to agree with consensus that this isn't really an EP. The only question I would have is whether or not it's considered live, by virtue of all the tracks being recorded "live" via zoom, or studio by virtue of the fact they were recorded without an audience and possibly were edited afterward. There's also the question of whether it's a compilation since all the tracks were released ahead of time, albeit in video form. I don't have any strong thoughts, except it's an LP. No question. YouCanDoBetter (talk) 06:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- But it meets none of the requirements for an EP and all of the requirements for an album. For example, Yes's 1980 Drama album is roughly three minutes shorter than this and also has six tracks. Despite what people are calling it, Wikipedia should reflect the true definitions and refer to this as an album. I don't know if people seem to believe that it being a digital-only release disqualifies it as an album - but it does not, an album can be digital-only. – Dyolf87 (talk) 09:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)