Talk:Timeline of the 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests (April 2020)

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) 10:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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5x expanded by RealFakeKim (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - Assuming good faith that everything is accurate due to heavy reliance on Mandarin-language sources. Even if accurate, however, the reliance is undue. 26 of 29 sources are in Chinese, despite WP:NONENG's English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when available and of equal quality and relevance. Quotations are not given for any Chinese source and titles are not translated, which I believe also violates WP:NONENG.
  • Neutral: No - A convincing argument could be made that due to the exhaustive listing of every perceived wrong against the protesters, this article gives undue weight to their cause.
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
  • Other problems: No - I would question whether most of the things in this article are truly notable. The article seems to violate WP:NOTNEWS especially and is an exhausting play-by-play of minor events that would not be worthy of inclusion in the main article on the protests or even the main timeline article. This seems to have been done in order to reach the required 5x expansion as otherwise the article isn't new enough. There lead is especially against policy and starts with a fragment. If the most significant thing to happen in the month is the banning of a videogame, perhaps nothing significant happened enough for an article. Indeed, this article probably should be nominated for deletion, and the timelines for March, April, and May merged to become one cleaned up article with less minor details, or only one timeline article existing. (And perhaps previous timelines likewise merged.) There are also a lot of fixable grammatical errors, especially fragments like "With them taking part in demonstrations last year." / awkward phrases such as "humiliating a flag" / WP:MOS violations throughout. WP:DATED is another problem in places.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Main hook and hook ALT1 are essentially identical. ALT1 is a bit better, but both are grammatically incorrect; I've attempted to remedy that. Hook honestly would have been better placed under "In the news" than DYK. It's already stale.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: I do not think that this article can become DYK-ready, and it probably needs to be reviewed by WP:AFD, along with the other timeline articles, and a consensus reached on deletion/merger. I don't have time to start and follow up that discussion, but it should happen. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 20:52, 10 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RealFakeKim: Are you still willing to address the concerns raised above? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:32, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd like to withdraw as it will take some time to clean up. — RealFakeKimT 07:29, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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