Talk:Timeline of the Syrian civil war (January–April 2013)

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So much propaganda and bias in this article I don't know where to begin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.117.168 (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. This "article" should be deleted because it doesnt meet Wiki criteria. Ratipok (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like the above unsigned comment is POV to me, I think the ISS is about as reliable as the Syrian Government. But without them there would be noting to report really. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The above comment is an IP sock of MalesAlwaysBest Darkness Shines (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree that the daily tally of deaths is unnecessary. This is also the only place i have ever seen the opposition names of the fridays. Its seems strange to include those in a wikipedia page since i have never seen it being used by any RS. Also the statement from Enlil Ninlil about there being nothing to report without the LCC is simply untrue. There are daily reports from RS about Syria. Liquidinsurgency (talk) 23:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A daily death toll is a daily death toll. There is nothing wrong with it. You are free to add SOHR and SANA reports on the daily death toll. Just keep in mind we use SOHR, LCC, and SANA sources STRICTLY for the death toll. Nothing else. We don't use direct LCC or SANA reports for battle information. Sopher99 (talk) 02:51, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Listing Israel endangers neutrality[edit]

Israel is listed as a location for this conflict since November 11. This causes problems for Wikipedia neutrality, as the events in question did not occur within internationally recognized borders of Israel, but in the Israeli occupied Golan. This area is internationally recognized as part of Syria, Israel has however unilaterally annexed this area. Placing claims that these clashes on and near Golan happened in Israel can be construed as taking the Israeli POV. If however we change location of the war to parties involved, we would be remaining neutral on the annexation issue as IDF involvement in these events is unquestionable. Either way, we need to do something. 169.202.5.161 (talk) 11:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I copied the infobox from the main page. Could you please raise the issue there? Thanks. --Emesik (talk) 13:03, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Sopher99 (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

LCC Civlians killed by Syrian Army[edit]

Where exactly does the reports by the LCC say that the killed where civlians killed by the army? --Liquidinsurgency (talk) 20:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if its from the interest of the article to provide us with daily death rates, why there is only the Syrian Arab Army killings and not also the FSA and other groups inflicted casualties in the civilian population? ˜˜˜˜

LCC is also problematic as it characterizes those killed as 'martyrs' without distinguishing between civilians and rebel fighters. We should rather stick to SOHR for casualty figures.--41.76.208.114 (talk) 06:06, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the language used there. --Emesik (talk) 11:44, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In my personal opinion these timeline articles shouldn't include the daily LCC claims of the number of dead at all. Because it's not encyclopedic and Wikipedia should be an encyclopedia. The timeline articles should stick to major political and military events that happen in the conflict and mention a death toll when there is a massacre or a battle with a high number of deaths. EkoGraf (talk) 06:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pure propaganda[edit]

This article is filled with one source reports from a page close to free syrian army. It does not contain numbers of "martyrs" killed by FSA and most likely fakes real numbers of deaths. In Libyan civil war timeline provided information about movements of army and important happenings but this article is full of propaganda shit therefore should be removed or properly cleaned.

lccsyria.org[edit]

How is this even a remotely reliable source? Darkness Shines (talk) 14:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is not, and it's obviously biased. However, it's the only source giving some estimate of body count, even though it seems to forget about loyalist casualties. --Emesik (talk) 14:45, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Then this needs to be attributed at the least, the source is pure junk. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:49, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
SANA and LCC are fine for reporting daily death tolls. Sopher99 (talk) 04:15, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Have you seen daily death tools from SANA? --Emesik (talk) 12:05, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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