Talk:Vlad Taltos

Scope of this article[edit]

It seems like this page was edited to contain the very first two books (Jhereg and Yendi) but not anything past that. I'll try and add some stuff to this, but we should probably try and make this article more complete. --FlareXyron 20:38, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've been hesitant to put information from later in the series here. I figure that new readers are the most likely to look up info on the character himself. They'd want to know general information without getting spoiled on too many plot points of later novels. It's always possible to put more information in spoiler tags to make the article more complete, but so far I've been content with a basic spoiler-free introduction. -Captain Crawdad 18:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that, if we want a catalogue of all the things Vlad has done or had happen to him, we could add a spoiler section to the "History" section. There, we could put an extremely high-level, Cliff's Notes summary of the main points. If readers want more detail, they can consult the plot summaries of the various books, which are linked in the article. As it stands now, I think we should avoid spoiling the plots of those books in the rest of the article. -Captain Crawdad 17:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sociopath?[edit]

I just removed someone's recent addition of placing Vlad in the "fictional sociopaths" category because I don't think he fits. To be fair, here are the traits:

-Failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest (Vlad had no problem conforming to the Jhereg rules for a long time before extreme measures drove him to break them)

-Deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure (Vlad occasionally hides details of himself, often out of necessity, but is usually very honest)

-Impulsivity or failure to plan ahead (Half guilty. He plans very well, and prefers it, but does act impulsively on occasion)

-Irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults (Guilty, though always for rational reasons and always within his basic code. Plus violence is more accepted in Dragaeran society.)

-Reckless disregard for safety of self or others (He tries to minimize "collateral damage" and feels bad when it is not possible)

-Consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain steady work or honor financial obligations (Doesn't apply. He ran a successful organization.)

-Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another (He's remorseful about many things)

While Vlad is certainly a murderer and an antihero, I don't think we can accurately place him as a sociopath. -Captain Crawdad 07:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Order of Books[edit]

Jhegaala just came out, and it was listed as happening after Phoenix. In the first chapter, it says that Vlad had turned on the Jhereg and angered them (which happened in Teckla) but had not turned to the Empire with evidence (which happened in Phoenix). I changed the order listed to reflect that. TedProdromou (talk) 23:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]