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Requested move 27 June 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. Strong arguments on both sides. But the idea to try it to see the navigation outcomes doesn’t address the RECENTISM and long-term significance objections. (non-admin closure) В²C 05:23, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Wagner (disambiguation)WagnerWP:NOPRIMARY. 90.255.6.219 (talk) 23:04, 27 June 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 07:04, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Those are different in that there isn't another common meaning of those surnames. Jim 2 Michael (talk) 13:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You aren't aware that Wagner more often refers to Wagner Group? That page received 3.7 million views this month, compared to 122,000 for Richard Wagner. Jim 2 Michael (talk) 13:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Unlike Richard"? The composer wouldn't be known as just Wagner??? Is that what you're claiming? Obviously the Strauss of this disagreement is getting to you. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:14, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Richard is probably sometimes called just "Wagner" but normally when the context is clear similar to Lincoln being a DAB and listing Abraham Lincoln but most of the time Abraham would be known (and searched for) by his full name while the capitals of Lincolnshire and Nebraska and car are probably searched with just "Lincoln" much more often. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:06, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Utter rubbish, I'm afraid. He's far more likely to be referred to just by his surname. Many people would probably struggle to rememember what his first name was, it's so rarely used. On a par with Beethoven and Tchaikovsky and other such composers. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know less about classical music than most, but even I know Ludwig Beethoven and Wolfgang Mozart. (Tchaikovsky? You got me.)
Of course he's commonly referred to as "Wagner" in the context of classical music/opera. But outside that context, it's confusing and ambiguous. Red Slash 21:02, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. No PTOPIC between the composer, the paramilitary, and all the other things listed at the dab. Also per Joy. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE (I will not see your reply if you don't mention me) 03:28, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.