Talk:Warning from Space

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my butt!

"The film, along with other 1950s science fiction films, influenced director Stanley Kubrick, who would later direct 2001: A Space Odyssey." I'd like to see a reliable source.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This has been waiting long enough for a review, so I'll give it one. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 05:00, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the issues I found:

The fair use image File:Pairanaliencostume.jpg is unneeded since we have a free image of nearly the same thing; have that deleted.
"concluding Japanese Dr. Kumara as the best human to contact." not sure if concluding is best word use here; maybe 'decided on'.
I'd normally put the actors in parentheses alongside the role they played in the plot section, but since none of them have articles it's not all that useful in this case. Optional to add.
"nameless two-metre-tall black starfish with a single central eye, who walk en pointe like ballet dancers." quote needs cite; i'm positive it's the one in the next sentence so it's easy to add on at least.
IMDb shouldn't be used as an RS (ref #10). If possible find a replacement.

I'll put the article on hold and will pass when the issues are fixed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 17:18, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I addressed all of your issues except the first, I'm not sure what you mean by the "free image of nearly the same thing".--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 21:08, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I mean the second image in the article (the one with the reddish tint) shows pretty much the same thing that the black and white one does. Since one's a free image and the other isn't, I deleted the one that wasn't. Everything else looks good, so I'll pass the article as a GA. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

cast list removed

This series of edits removed the cast list. JoshuSasori (talk) 08:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, it looks crappy with all the redlinks to me, and it got GA without the cast list so I presumed it was unnecessary.--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 14:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's useful to have a cast list. You can just remove the red links. JoshuSasori (talk) 22:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's also redundant -- the information can be found in the infobox.--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 23:17, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The infobox has the cast but not the corresponding roles. JoshuSasori (talk) 23:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, come on... The article just looks better without it; you can add the actor name next to the first mentioning of the character in the synopsis.--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 01:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most film articles on Wikipedia have a cast list. I'm not sure what the style manual says about whether it is necessary, but I don't think it should be removed because of your whims. JoshuSasori (talk) 04:06, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I'm not so sure most have a cast list -- I've seen plenty of articles, even ones that have reached milestones, that don't have cast lists. Second, cast lists usually aren't full of obscure Japanese actors, and probably link to an actual, useful page. Thirdly, like I said, it really does look terrible on the page -- just add it a parenthetical link to the actor next to the first mentioning of the corresponding character.--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 18:49, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Take, for instance, the article on Tenebrae. --Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 18:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Public domain

Neither Amazon.com nor Archive.org actually said this film was in the public domain, nor would they really be reliable sources for that. Copyright law of Japan establishes that it's not in the public domain of Japan. The Copyright law of the United States is more complex, but the URAA would have restored this Japanese movie to copyright. Widely treated as public domain in the US, yes, but actually PD in the US or Japan or most places, no.--Prosfilaes (talk) 07:38, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thanks for updating the page accordingly, much appreciated. If you have any other information, please add! Thanks.--Architeuthidae (Talk | Contributions) 03:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure when it got added, but I removed a bit about it being "placed in the public domain" from an intro paragraph since I couldn't find a source for it. If anyone knows what the justification for it being considered in the public domain is that'd be a good addition, as would the information that it's frequently treated as being in the public domain. --Polm23 (talk) 03:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any citable information, but it was probably in the PD in the US shortly after its production until the URAA restored it in 1996, since the US copyright law required would-be copyright holders to jump through hoops most foreign authors didn't. Since it was commonly used as PD, and no copyright holder was jumping forward to argue the case, it continued being treated as PD.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:05, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source novel?

It seems to now be "common knowledge" on English-speaking internet that this film is based on a novel by Nakajima Gentaro. Does anyone have any actual evidence of this, other than the very brief mention in Walt Lee's Reference Guide to Fantastic Films^[1]? You see, I think that good old Walt simply got it wrong. I cannot find a single evidence of such a novel having ever been written, nor any evidence that Mr. Gentaro ever published a novel in his life. Further disproving Lee's claim that the book was based on a novel can be found on Japanese Wikipedia^[2], where the entry for Warning from Space simply gives Nakajima credit for "Screenplay draft". If someone doesn't come up with any sort of information about this supposed novel pretty soon, I will edit this entry with the above information. Scifist (talk) 14:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Silent contempt (mokusatsu)

I don't know what the English version is, but in the Japanese scene where the reply from the World Congress is received, the word mokusatsu is used. This is the same word used by the Japanese Prime Minister in July 1945 to reject the Potsdam Declaration, linked to the US use of the atomic bomb. The screenplay used this word to build a sense of urgency. I rewrote the sentence to reflect this. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 01:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://books.google.fi/books?ei=6uS5TeSfNNHegQf-7tFo&ct=result&id=qSdlAAAAMAAJ&dq=walt+lee+Reference+guide+to+fantastic+films+Kaguyahime&q=Kaguyahime&redir_esc=y#search_anchor

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