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New Windsor[edit]

A reference recently added says that it was called New Windsor until the 19th century. My recollection is that it was officially the "Royal Borough of New Windsor" until 1974. Bluewave 14:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite so. 194.66.226.95 11:13, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

winch by the riverside?[edit]

Does it really mean 'winch by the riverside'? To me it sounds like folk etymology. The same root can be found in the names of ancient towns such as: Vindolana, Vindocladia, Vindomagus, Vindomara, Vindomis, Vindoballa, but also outside of ancient Britain - in the Alps: Vindonissa, Vindelicia, Vindobona... The name comes from the ethnonym Veneti, who were living among other places in Brittany, but also across the Channel in Gwynedd (Latin: Venedotia / Vendotia). Also, there seem to be two other Windsors in the UK, meaning we have then two aditional 'winches by the riversides'. 219.23.88.182 12:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One might expect there to be numerous such places before the advent of motorised ferries or bridge technology. As stated in the article, the root for this is Old English for a windlass, not of Latin origin as you mention above. [1] and [2] support the name origin; I've added both references to the article. Bazza 14:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Antiquity of Peascod Street[edit]

The article states that:

It [Peascod Street] predates the castle by many years, certainly it formed part of the tenth century parish structure in east Berkshire.

Is there evidence that it is this old? The Ray South history (referenced in the article) mentions a reference from 1308 (in which it is called "Pescroftstrete"). In medieval times (and later), the street followed the boundary between Clewer parish and St John's, New Windsor. However, the New Windsor parish was presumably a Norman invention, so is there evidence for the 10th century assertion? Also, the street aligns exactly with the Norman motte (ie the present Round Tower). Doesn't this again suggest that the motte came first and the street led towards it? Bluewave (talk) 14:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Residents[edit]

Three "notable" residents have been posted with dubious credibility:

Juggler - no supporting information, Swedish Entrepenur - no supporting information, Steven Glover - self published one book, does this qualify as "notable" ?

Suggest that the three above are removed. Going once.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.75.115 (talk) 13:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seconded. Bluewave (talk) 13:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Going Twice.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.75.115 (talk) 11:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC) Now Removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.52.49.7 (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But you might want to sign your posts. Otherwise people might think you don't know what you're doing. Bluewave (talk) 11:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good call - I'll do that in future. Noswal2007

Deleting two new spurious additions to this section. Noswal2007 Deleting two new spurious additions to this section. July 2011, Noswal2007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noswal (talk • contribs) 17:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Natalie Imbruglia is no longer a Windsor resident, but when I tried to edit the Wiki my amend got removed. Please can someone who knows what they are doing correct the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.104.39.74 (talk) 23:30, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess that if you supply a reference that shows she has left, then the edit won't be reverted. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 23:34, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The residence list is experiencing spurious growth again, including "from Winkfield, near to Windsor". The article is about Windsor, and so I would expect residency of that place, and not somewhere nearby, to be a requirement for inclusion in the list. I've removed any not meeting this requirement. Bazza (talk) 13:16, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger of St George's School, Windsor Castle to this article[edit]

Oppose. The school is plainly notable, so it merits an article of its own. In any event, the last thing the Windsor, Berkshire, article needs is a long section on the history and present-day operation of a 600-year-old school, plus a list of those who attended it. Moonraker (talk) 13:02, 22 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 7 May 2019[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. WP:SNOW closure. Clear consensus this is not the primary topic. (non-admin closure) Calidum 05:18, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Windsor, Berkshire → Windsor
Windsor → Windsor (disambiguation)

– I think this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Not only does this Windsor seem to beat all others in the long-term significance criterion, but when I type just 'Windsor' without further context into Google Maps or Google Earth, I get taken to this one. Even Google search assumes I mean this one; I get an infobox of sorts about this one, and not to mention that most of the results are clearly about this one to boot. I don't think this is a result of my location; tying 'Boston' takes me to the one in Massachusetts (which is our primary topic for that term, and again, most of the search results are about that one), even though I'm not very far from the one in Lincolnshire. Google clearly considers this one the primary topic, and I think we should too. Adam9007 (talk) 23:36, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I'm going to guess it is your location. From where I am, Google gives me the city in Ontario. And the Ontario city outstrips Windsor, Berkshire in pageviews by a decent amount, so I can't say there's a primary topic here. Nohomersryan (talk) 01:14, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nohomersryan, So you get the Ontario city if you type 'Windsor' (and nothing else) into Google? That's interesting. I wonder why don't I get the Lincolnshire town if I type in 'Boston', or the Scottish city when I type in 'Perth'? Adam9007 (talk) 01:30, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've just done a test; I spoofed the GPS on my mobile phone to some random location in Canada and searched for 'Windsor'. I indeed got the Ontario city. However, Google Maps still gave me this one (even when I pressed 'Maps' on Google Search displaying the Ontario one). Weird. Adam9007 (talk) 01:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I believe that people might also type "Windsor" looking for the very famous Windsor Castle which is an equally viable search term, not to mention the numerous other things called that._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:46, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the family and the castle and Canada equally possible. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support based on the long-term significance of the Berkshire town. I would note that the town article can serve as a broad concept article for the castle and by extension the House of Windsor and the family. I would note that the castle is a level 5 vital article which would probably qualify it as primary by PT#2. I would suggest that Windsor is one of the best known places in the country, personally I'm pretty sure I'd heard of Windsor long before I'd heard of Birmingham or Manchester. I personally do think that primary topic criteria should be stricter but as it currently isn't a direct link to the Ontario city may be sufficient. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:18, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NOPRIMARY. Berkshire town has long-term significance, but there are so many places named after it that based on usage make it not primary. -- Netoholic @ 17:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NOPRIMARY. There are major topics of this name (the market town, the castle, the family, and the Ontarian city), along with countless lesser ones, but none is/are primary. — AjaxSmack 22:23, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I do think it's your location. Living in Hong Kong my first Google search result is this; among Wikipedia articles the first result is Windsor House (Hong Kong), followed by House of Windsor, followed by Windsor Castle. Windsor Berkshire is nowhere to be found. feminist (talk) 08:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above, and due to the other significant similarly-named topics. ╠╣uw [talk] 10:07, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Windsor Castle in the Doomsday Book[edit]

The Medieval period section starting "Windsor Castle is noted in the Domesday Book under the entry for Clewer," has no references and is incorrect, there is no mention in 1066 or 1086, Please see: Clewer on OpenDoomsday^[1] & Windsor (old) ^[2] Unless there is an objection or evidence to the contrary, I will remove that paragraph.

Sciencefish (talk) 23:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Clewer". Open Doomsday.
^ "Windsor". Open Doomsday.

Now removed. Sciencefish (talk) 08:15, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Population[edit]

Population needs to be listed.Dogru144 (talk)

@Dogru144:It is, at the top of the article. Bazza (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Clewer". Open Doomsday.

[2] "Windsor". Open Doomsday.

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